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Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that it excuses what's happening, or that it really puts her in the "top 1 percent"...but despite the low views, she could still be using a lot of bandwidth. Her videos appear to be tutorials that are pretty long, most of them 1 hour+: https://loish.net/tutorials/ It wouldn't take many views/month to use a lot of bandwidth, assuming her customers watch the whole thing. That's perhaps not worth $3500/year, but I c…

Please tell me how streaming a few hundred hours of video needs to cost 25 bucks? Even at top resolution.

Cheaper to mail out dvds

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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FYI Update from Vimeo CEO posted Friday https://vimeo.com/blog/post/improving-policy-on-video-bandwi... (disclaimer I am a Vimeo employee)

Am I the only one that thinks 2TB is pretty low for a plan that costs $75/month?

Bandwidth pricing is always a difficult topic. E.g. one comparison: 2 TB traffic out of AWS CloudFront is $85-120/month (first TB free, per TB cost as listed for the second TB, depending on region), and that's traffic only, no storage, processing, ... Of course AWS traffic is not exactly cheap, but Vimeo is an all-in-one service handling more than just traffic.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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This sounds like a potentially great business clarity move: > We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube” But this part -- bait&switch, with only one week to decide or move, (if that's accurate) -- is not what you want from your B2B solution provider: > “I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive,” [...] if she wanted to keep hosting her content on the site, she’d need to upgrade…

It's not even a sensible or pro-rated increase.

Just a shakedown.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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I have switched to Twitch and have been encouraging people to switch to Twitch. Twitch is a better platform in every aspect, not to mention boycotting spyware company like Google, which keeps users hostage for money.

For VOD content?

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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89.26% of its shares are now owned by 375+ institutional investors.

Their expectation of growth and success is well-understood by the Board of Directors and the Executive Team.

In less than a year, the IPO is complete and Elvis has left the building.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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As a consumer of Vimeo content from musicians and comedians, I can translate this to English: “We have given up trying to produce a competitive consumer solution because we can’t be bothered to hire a UX designer or do any basic consumer-level testing of our product at all. Fuck if we know how to make things work. But business don’t care.”

I happen to really like Vimeo's UX.

Dead simple and completely on point. You come, you click play and you watch. Done.

Whether this is worth $3500 a year vs a self-hosted solution is an open question, but their UI/UX is very much fine.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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FYI Update from Vimeo CEO posted Friday https://vimeo.com/blog/post/improving-policy-on-video-bandwi... (disclaimer I am a Vimeo employee)

Do you think this will lead to the downfall of Vimeo? How are you and your colleagues interpreting this move?

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that it excuses what's happening, or that it really puts her in the "top 1 percent"...but despite the low views, she could still be using a lot of bandwidth. Her videos appear to be tutorials that are pretty long, most of them 1 hour+: https://loish.net/tutorials/ It wouldn't take many views/month to use a lot of bandwidth, assuming her customers watch the whole thing. That's perhaps not worth $3500/year, but I c…

With this amount of views you can just rent a cheap VPS with a few terabytes of included egress traffic, put up a very basic index.html, and stream those videos via the browser's HTML5 video player. This costs about $5 per month, maybe add $5 for more storage. I get that not everybody has the skills to do this and payments are handled by Vimeo but $3500 is outrageous.

3500 a year is significantly less than hiring someone to do it for you.
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