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Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

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> Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Actually, no. There are many things I'm tired of waiting for in industrial manufacturing and engineering, and driverless vehicles are not really on that list. Even if I think about transportation challenges only, the need for human drivers is not even on my top 10 list of issues.

What are some of the things you'd like to see in industrial manufacturing and engineering?

Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

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post #9

I never want to be in a 'driverless vehicle'. I want control and I want to drive myself.

But I don't want to driving a vehicle on the same road I am on. Well, not exactly you but, you know, those idiots.

The computer is only as smart as the person who programmed it.

Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

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Would be interesting if you could make this work similar to SolarCity. If own any plot of land, some company will give you a robot for free that will take care of planting seeds and harvesting the crops, and it'll pay for itself over time by taking some portion of the production.

Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

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post #9

I never want to be in a 'driverless vehicle'. I want control and I want to drive myself.

But I don't want to driving a vehicle on the same road I am on. Well, not exactly you but, you know, those idiots.

Have you been getting good customer service since they switched to dehumanized, automated systems?

Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

#35
post #33

Would be interesting if you could make this work similar to SolarCity. If own any plot of land, some company will give you a robot for free that will take care of planting seeds and harvesting the crops, and it'll pay for itself over time by taking some portion of the production.

Land and fertile farmland are very different things.

Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

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I'm really surprised autonomous recreational boats are not something yet. There are plenty of canals and rivers with day boats and holiday boats going about slowly around the 3-6mph speed limits which would make ideal candidates as this is a very limited contained environment. At the very least the insurance companies could be insisting on some sort of crash avoidance guidance/control system to avoid boats from getti…

Canals (or at least narrow, shallow British-style canals) would be a surprisingly difficult environment to design an automated system for. Vessels whose awkward handling is heavily affected by highly variable wind, water depth and proximity to banks, overhanging branches, floating rubbish and interactions with other boats whose unpredictable behaviour is usually understood by talking to them. Given the delayed respon…

Do you have any info/links on autonomous shipping ?

Deep sea autonomy should be a .. breeze (ha!). Last mile is obviously a different beast.

Maybe the trend to larger ships makes autonomy just not worth it. Crew cost is fairly marginal. AFAIK shipping is fairly legacy and regulation-bound, with captains filling in excels and emailing them daily to HQ.

EDIT: i recall a Norwegian cargo ferry doing a daily near- shore route. kudos to them

Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

#37

I'm really surprised autonomous recreational boats are not something yet. There are plenty of canals and rivers with day boats and holiday boats going about slowly around the 3-6mph speed limits which would make ideal candidates as this is a very limited contained environment. At the very least the insurance companies could be insisting on some sort of crash avoidance guidance/control system to avoid boats from getti…

While not canal boats, some yachts do have varying amount of automation. Some have waypoint systems tied into radar/vision collision avoidance systems which will guide the boat through a series of waypoints and attempt to avoid hitting anything on the water. Obviously you're supposed to still be alert and in control of the boat, but automated systems for cruising around a more open area definitely exists.

You definitely wouldn't want to trust it for any place even slightly crowded though. On a big yacht you'll want to respond to changes quite quickly, and many of those automated collision detection systems are far from perfect.

Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

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Is there a non-"team green" solution that works well? With all the bad press about Deere these days (including a few HN comments from suppliers to Deere that revealed they deliberately ask for slightly tweaked parts to avoid being compatible with regular parts), I wonder if there's a suitable alternative.

I live in a rural area and some people are selling their used John Deere machines to buy new ones from other brands due to this problem. It won't surprise me if those other brands invest more in that technology in the next years to be on par to John Deere, and it would be really positive if they force a higher level of repairability.

Anyway, those who sell those products probably would also sell the autonomous technology as a service more than a one pay product. If those services are arriving in the car market I doubt that machinery industry would reject earning a periodical income in addition to machine sales.

Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I don't want to driving a vehicle on the same road I am on. Well, not exactly you but, you know, those idiots.

The computer is only as smart as the person who programmed it.

Andrej is pretty smart. But that's moot because these systems are developing to the point where they are programming themselves, as he would tell you.

Re: Tired of waiting for driverless vehicles? Head to a farm

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I don't want to driving a vehicle on the same road I am on. Well, not exactly you but, you know, those idiots.

Have you been getting good customer service since they switched to dehumanized, automated systems?

I have no issue with driverless cars per se but I am extremely interested in retaining vehicles that are not connected and/or central controlled and are autonomous under my sole control.

Freedom of right to unsupervised movement is as important as free speech in a free society IMO

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