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Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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Remodeling doesn't sound like a healthy activity.

Stress and sitting at a desk all day kill just as effectively as gypsum dust. However it’s a lot easier for a remodeler to put on a P100 mask.

The greatest danger is prolonged intellectual concentration. It will drive you stark raving bonkers and that's no lie. And it's so slow and gentle that you'll never know it. And when everybody around you suffers from the same derangement, it's considered perfectly normal

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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Sorry for the blunt question, but how does it feel to go from something where you make something valuable to ...that? (At least I feel what I do give me meaning)

Providing liquidity to the market is valuable too, as well as rapid reallocation of capital where it's needed. Not to say there aren't differences, of course. But I feel like your comparison is condescending. These people do valuable work too.

Stock traders don't "provide" anything, they're just playing a part in a poor, and exploitation-buttressing, system of exchange and resource allocation.

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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I worked full time as a software dev from about 1999 until 2010. It was never really all that fulfilling for me, although I was pretty good at what I did. I was laid off in 2010, and spent the rest of the year milking goats and sheep, and making cheese in France and the UK. When I returned home in late 2010, my wife and I moved to a more rural location, bought a small herd of goats, and started building a cheese plant.

We've been making cheese going on 8 years now, and have expanded into sheep and cow's milk production, in addition to our goat's milk varieties. Unlike most of the cheese producers around us, we focus on raw milk cheeses with natural rinds. Many of our varieties are inspired by cheese I encountered while working in Europe.

  Here's a small gallery of some of our cheeses: https://imgur.com/a/zg0eaTz
We're just emerging from our kidding season and heading into lambing. It's the most challenging period of the year, as we'll have 150+ kids and lambs arrive over a couple of weeks.

  https://imgur.com/a/USmPghf 
The shift has been fulfilling overall, and I still do work on some tech related projects which has been great. I have to some degree begrudgingly watched my peers' income shoot up dramatically over the last 12 years, while I have to work twice as hard to bring home the same amount.

Overall though, it's been net positive for my family, and while I've tried to quit farming at least half a dozen times, I was never able to bring myself to make the break.

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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Did not switch jobs, but got a huge land (with my amazing IT income) that used to be a quarry. The plan is to pump Carbon in the depleted soil to help climate change and build a fruit forest to share with local community (not doing it for profit). Too early for success story

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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Walked away from 20 years of software development last year. I've been day and swing trading stocks for last 2 years. I'm now trading full time and doing great. I don't miss the daily stand-ups, scrum meetings, planning meetings, "quick chats", one-on-ones with management, weekly department meetings, monthly company meetings, and late night critical support calls one bit!

Sorry for the blunt question, but how does it feel to go from something where you make something valuable to ...that? (At least I feel what I do give me meaning)

When I first started out I actually got to develop, write and deploy complete applications as opposed to endless updates or tiny sections of some larger project. It was an amazing feeling seeing something you write being run by dozens or even hundreds of users around the world. If the code you write today is meaningful to you that's great but its been a LONG time since I could look at something running that I wrote and feel any sense of ownership in the deal. I used to tell my team - when we have a bad day something crashes or doesnt work right. When my wife has a bad day somebody may have died literally (she's a nurse). Perspective!

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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Walked away from 20 years of software development last year. I've been day and swing trading stocks for last 2 years. I'm now trading full time and doing great. I don't miss the daily stand-ups, scrum meetings, planning meetings, "quick chats", one-on-ones with management, weekly department meetings, monthly company meetings, and late night critical support calls one bit!

I would love to talk with you more about this. You open to conversation?

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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Walked away from 20 years of software development last year. I've been day and swing trading stocks for last 2 years. I'm now trading full time and doing great. I don't miss the daily stand-ups, scrum meetings, planning meetings, "quick chats", one-on-ones with management, weekly department meetings, monthly company meetings, and late night critical support calls one bit!

Sorry for the blunt question, but how does it feel to go from something where you make something valuable to ...that? (At least I feel what I do give me meaning)

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Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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Providing liquidity to the market is valuable too, as well as rapid reallocation of capital where it's needed. Not to say there aren't differences, of course. But I feel like your comparison is condescending. These people do valuable work too.

Stock traders don't "provide" anything, they're just playing a part in a poor, and exploitation-buttressing, system of exchange and resource allocation.

That's a very shortsighted view.

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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That would help with climate change, but the biggest part is reducing our consumption in all senses. For example, my electricity bill is 10€/month, I have no fridge, use no heating, no hot water, so I'd totally be able to live with just a small solar panel, as I almost never use a device that requires a high power (I eat mostly raw fruits/vegs, more rarely eggs, fish or rice)

I mean, kudos to you, but the vast, vast majority of people (myself included) are not willing to give up refrigerators, or heat, or hot water, so your approach really isn't relevant give the scale needed to solve the problem.

I haven't done so myself either, but as the time passes I increasingly become convinced that the only available options for vast majority of population will be to do it now on your own terms or be forced to do it with everyone else later.

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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I’ve taken a meandering path in developer-adjacent roles: Engineering management, then product management (entirely different type of management), then adviser/consultant roles, and even years as a stay at home dad with some stints as an IC developer mixed in.

When I talk to developers, a lot of them expect me to gush about how much better things are once you’re away from the code. The truth is that I frequently regretted not sticking with a basic software developer trajectory from the start.

Management of any type is far more difficult than it appears from the outside. A huge part of my management jobs has been handling and hiding all of the problems that come up so that the team doesn’t have to deal with them. The better I’ve done my job, the easier it looks from the outside. My teams should never have to know about the difficult battles I’ve dealt with, down to some of the most bizarre and even scary personnel problems I’ve had to handle.

Software development felt like the most difficult and least-appreciated job at the company when I was young, but after a tour of management positions I miss the days of being able to sit down with a team and solve hard problems in the code.

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