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George Hotz against the institutions

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Re: George Hotz against the institutions

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Post by marcan_42 »

hatware wrote: post #34
marcan_42 wrote: post #8

Reminder that geohot wasn't the first person to jailbreak an iPhone; that's an oft repeated myth. He was the first person to publicly carrier unlock an iPhone, which he did using information and methods he mostly learned from others.

You can say that about anybody, doing anything. Weird way to show you have a vendetta against someone you likely don't even know.

My name was on the Sony lawsuit next to his, for what it's worth. I don't know him personally, but I did have to ask him to give us credit for just implementing our method when he posted the PS3 metldr keys without explanation, a week after we'd given a talk on it.

Re: George Hotz against the institutions

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Post by TimPC »

I feel sorry for him. Spending your life trying to make it into a good story is sad. Most good stories have characters who are intentionally flawed in order to create conflict and plot. The best lives are fairly boring as far as narrative plot goes. It’s even a curse to live in interesting times.

Re: George Hotz against the institutions

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Post by jeffreygoesto »

yeetard wrote: post #64
jeffreygoesto wrote: post #57

He's a brilliant kid, but also boasting about things he has no clue about. We built 120db cameras into series production cars since 2005. Took one guy being brilliant in FPGAs and me implementing HDR tonemapping it down for processing on those small CPUs we had back then.

he's like 32

Biologically.

Re: George Hotz against the institutions

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Post by yieldgap »

ttttttttttttttp wrote: post #78

Hotz seems to be falling into the familiar pattern of those who gain fame at a younger age for doing something impressive to a wide audience - as they get ever older, they feel the need to recapture that feeling, and jump from trend to trend, trying to stay relevant. He's clearly an intelligent man, but he should try to understand that he no longer needs to prove himself, or outdo his previous famous achievements. It…

I'm not really sure he is jumping from trend to trend though. He's been working on comma.ai since 2015.

Re: George Hotz against the institutions

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Post by espes »

marcan_42 wrote: post #79
xiphias2 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That may be true, but during the coding videos on YouTube he's extremely smart. My favorite saying of him is that they don't have a cone guy because a self driving system shouldn't contain the knowledge of a cone explicitly. Guess what happened in the last Tesla update: the car went into a cone because it wasn't the usual color.

Let's just say I've talked with people who have worked with him on comma.ai and... I heard his cars would be driving into everything if it were just his code running them without all the safety features the folks around him added. geohot isn't dumb, but he's also extremely good at making himself look like a lone genius, all the while he heavily relies on those around him. This has been a pattern his entire career. He…

I'm probably one of the people you've talked to. For all his flaws, and there are many, I would give a lot for any team I've been part of since to have someone even half as good as him.

Re: George Hotz against the institutions

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Post by fragmede »

floodyberry- wrote: post #70
rank0 wrote: post #41

I generally like this dude and his antics…but becoming dependent on opiates as an “experiment” is the stupidest shit I’ve ever read. It sounds like he wanted some adversity to overcome and couldn’t find any so he manufactured his own. Hopefully George understands that premeditated physical opioid dependence is not the same kind of struggle which addicts face. The homeless dudes shooting smack under a bridge have terr…

Like most? all? of the names dropped in the article, he appears to be interminably up his own ass. Not sure why he was notable enough for a long form interview

His Wikipedia article does a bit better.of a job explaining his technical accomplishments vs the passing mentions in the article.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz

Re: George Hotz against the institutions

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Post by yeetard »

morelisp wrote: post #75
yeetard wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

"We have big problems and mediocre self-driving cars won't solve them" is in security now?

no, but this is:

>stop lionizing the maverick genius

>nth brilliant asshole

>untamed superiority complex

>myopic nerd

>motivated by ressentiment

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>"We have big problems and mediocre self-driving cars won't solve them" is insecurity now?

Nobody even meant to imply that.

Re: George Hotz against the institutions

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Post by tylergetsay »

wffurr wrote: post #76
HellDunkel wrote: post #62

One of the great promises in 2016 was that end to end machine learning would solve „self-driving“. It is pretty clear now that this approach failed and will not work for the foreseeable future. As smart as George Hotz may be, he did not deliver and probably never will.

Consumer Reports was quite complimentary of Comma2 in their review of ADAS systems: https://data.consumerreports.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/... ADAS isn't self driving, and as you say it may never get there, but they did in fact deliver a working quality ADAS product. After reading that review, I was somewhat tempted to retrofit one into my 2017 Chevy Bolt, but was dissuaded by the thought of changing the acceler…

I did it in a similar vehicle and there's no modification of the pedal, you just need to bypass the stock LKAS

Re: George Hotz against the institutions

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Post by Invictus0 »

ttttttttttttttp wrote: post #78

Hotz seems to be falling into the familiar pattern of those who gain fame at a younger age for doing something impressive to a wide audience - as they get ever older, they feel the need to recapture that feeling, and jump from trend to trend, trying to stay relevant. He's clearly an intelligent man, but he should try to understand that he no longer needs to prove himself, or outdo his previous famous achievements. It…

Talk about armchair psychology
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