A sequence that we see all the time in the world of junk science
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A sequence that we see all the time in the world of junk science
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Re: A sequence that we see all the time in the world of junk science
#2> Yet another form of misinformation is political lies of the sort that we’ve been seeing most notoriously from Russian propaganda lately.
Are you referring to propaganda that Russia is spreading or the labeling of anyone who disagrees with the common narrative as Russian propaganda? It would seem to be there's a lot more of the second going on. Likewise, as much misinformation as there is going around, there's just as much labeling things as disinformation in order wield political muscle, which was rampant for the last two years during covid.
Re: A sequence that we see all the time in the world of junk science
#3General comment:
I wish more articles would correctly use "misinformation" or "disinformation" depending on the context.
Disinformation is the deliberate spreading of false information to mislead the audience.
Re: A sequence that we see all the time in the world of junk science
#4I'm laughing at the word "nudgelord". That's a good one.
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#5Doesn't it spread just like information?
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#6General comment: I wish more articles would correctly use "misinformation" or "disinformation" depending on the context. Disinformation is the deliberate spreading of false information to mislead the audience.
The pattern we tend to see is that it’s disinformation at the higher levels of distribution, but misinformation at the lower levels, like Facebook friends sharing health, politics, or racist propaganda between accounts.
There have been several write ups about how all of this works since the mid-2010s. One of the most fascinating and disturbing disinformation networks that I’ve ever ever seen is a 2020 analysis of the propaganda web network created by Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com by ISD:
https://www.isdglobal.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2020062...
To me, it looks like a foreign-influence operation intended to degrade and disrupt the exchange of free ideas in the US by injecting total nonsense into discussions about health and politics. A lot of Mike Adams’ disinformation is distributed as misinformation by unintended, and unwitting secondhand participants, like right-wing conservative blogs and pundits.
Edit: I forgot to mention that since this initial report came out in 2020, there’s been further revelations about how the NaturalNews network hired hackers to build their extensive network and help disseminate propaganda.
> Disinformation guru “Hacker X” names his employer: NaturalNews.com
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/10/disinformation-g...
> “Hacker X”—the American who built a pro-Trump fake news empire—unmasks himself
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/10/hacke...
Re: A sequence that we see all the time in the world of junk science
#7"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes" – Author unclear
Can we talk about the supposedly "cosmonauts arriving in the ISS wearing Ukraine's color" for a moment by the way? I saw that news posted at least 3 times today on HN, and it has been pushed all days on the front page on all media over here, I even got a notification on my phone from news outlets. But looking deeper into this: it seems like they've been using said suits since at least 2015, yet news outlet have _zero_ doubt this is a political message from the cosmonauts.
I've been trying to take a step back from "news from the Ukrainian front" for a few days now to preserve my mental health and it's disturbing to notice just how heavily certain things are being pushed by media to fit a certain narrative, I'm in no way a Kremlin sympathizer but I truly feel like I'm "on the other side" and forced to buy into a certain idea of the truth.
Re: A sequence that we see all the time in the world of junk science
#8And of course, one can use "true facts" to be dishonest as opposed to
telling "unfortunate untruths"
Re: A sequence that we see all the time in the world of junk science
#9> Yet another form of misinformation is political lies of the sort that we’ve been seeing most notoriously from Russian propaganda lately. Are you referring to propaganda that Russia is spreading or the labeling of anyone who disagrees with the common narrative as Russian propaganda? It would seem to be there's a lot more of the second going on. Likewise, as much misinformation as there is going around, there's just…
This appears to be a strange self-conversation. You take words and twist them until they fit a point you wanted to make.
Apparently you believe in things that most don't believe and that have been labeled (by whom?) as Russian propaganda. What does this add or subtract to the article?
And if I dare say so: if others get the impression that ideas you share are propaganda it is worth reflecting how you formed these opinions/beliefs. We are all victims of one form of propaganda or anotherz so it is generally a good idea to sometimes question whether important beliefs are indeed true, and especially what it would take to falsify them. What could someone show to you to prove that your views are false?
Re: A sequence that we see all the time in the world of junk science
#10Disinformation = ungood news pushed by an enemy state. Propaganda = disinformation from your own state. Misinformation = ungood news pushed by the right. Fake news = ungood news pushed by the left.
So when I read "misinformation is ..." I already know it's the left complaining about the right.