Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
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Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
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Re: Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
#2I agree with the conclusion, but not the logic.
A much more likely cause for IE supremacy is an established set of enterprise "web" applications, where these (badly written) "web" applications are so broken outside IE that they might as well be Win32.
If executives sank money into applications that now run the business, and find that IE keeps those applications running, they're more likely to establish an easy policy like "IE only". They are not likely to spend money to "fix" the "problem" that non-IE users "created".
As ideal as it would be to inform executives that it is Microsoft's broken code that actually created the problem of bringing in new browsers, I guarantee they won't see it that way.
Re: Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
#3"What is your motive or business case for orchestrating the rollout into your environment?"
That right there is why business IT changes at such a snail's pace. There's a tremendous difference in mindset between tech businesses, and businesses that use tech to save money, streamline processes, etc.
A lot of people in the startup community proclaim that businesses will be switching en masse from Windows and Blackberries and Office to Apples and iPhones and Google Docs, and it's exactly that sentence that they don't get. Even if newer products would be better for them (and they might) it would have to be a lot better to justify the expense.
All Microsoft has to do is remain good enough.
Re: Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
#4I agree with the conclusion, but not the logic. A much more likely cause for IE supremacy is an established set of enterprise "web" applications, where these (badly written) "web" applications are so broken outside IE that they might as well be Win32. If executives sank money into applications that now run the business, and find that IE keeps those applications running, they're more likely to establish an easy policy…
Can you point to at least one "established set of enterprise "web" applications" that supports this claim?
Re: Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
#5I agree with the conclusion, but not the logic. A much more likely cause for IE supremacy is an established set of enterprise "web" applications, where these (badly written) "web" applications are so broken outside IE that they might as well be Win32. If executives sank money into applications that now run the business, and find that IE keeps those applications running, they're more likely to establish an easy policy…
Can you point to at least one "established set of enterprise "web" applications" that supports this claim?
Every enterprise has their own. It's called their "intranet". Many written for ie only (they may not have even realized it at the time).
No one wants to rewrite their intranet just to support a marginally better browser.
Re: Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
#6The fact that IE is still pulling in big numbers is simply a sign of the times, and I believe it's volume of use and prevalence will eventually die off in the years to come. In short, the majority of computer users i.e. people are technically irrational and old, aka your typical Baby Boomer. I speak in stereotypes only to illustrate my point. sighs
Re: Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
#7I agree with the conclusion, but not the logic. A much more likely cause for IE supremacy is an established set of enterprise "web" applications, where these (badly written) "web" applications are so broken outside IE that they might as well be Win32. If executives sank money into applications that now run the business, and find that IE keeps those applications running, they're more likely to establish an easy policy…
Can you point to at least one "established set of enterprise "web" applications" that supports this claim?
established internal projects, in my experience, tend to target the browsers used by the employees of the company. a lot of shops are still windows-only shops, and so there is no cost-savings gained from worrying about support for other browsers.
Re: Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
#8I agree with the conclusion, but not the logic. A much more likely cause for IE supremacy is an established set of enterprise "web" applications, where these (badly written) "web" applications are so broken outside IE that they might as well be Win32. If executives sank money into applications that now run the business, and find that IE keeps those applications running, they're more likely to establish an easy policy…
Can you point to at least one "established set of enterprise "web" applications" that supports this claim?
I think the other two responses to this comment are spot-on. Lots of corporate intranets and internal applications are IE-only by default. It's certainly not justifiable from a cost standpoint to rewrite those.
Aside from corporate users, individual consumers who aren't necessarily computer-savvy (like my parents) don't have the knowledge (or desire) to download additional software and install extensions, plug-ins, etc. They go with the default browser of their O/S.
Re: Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
#9I agree with the conclusion, but not the logic. A much more likely cause for IE supremacy is an established set of enterprise "web" applications, where these (badly written) "web" applications are so broken outside IE that they might as well be Win32. If executives sank money into applications that now run the business, and find that IE keeps those applications running, they're more likely to establish an easy policy…
Can you point to at least one "established set of enterprise "web" applications" that supports this claim?
Booz Allen Hamilton > help.bah.com it's an internal site who's basic navigation only works on IE. They even put out a memo to avoid upgrading to the newest IE because of compatibility issues.
Re: Why IE will continue to win the enterprise browser wars
#10The easiest thing browsers can fix is to tie into Windows Authentication so that when I go to my intranet, they just log in for me with my OS credentials.