Btw those text based interfaces are better than most gui/web interfaces of today.
Modern Turbo Vision 2.0
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Re: Modern Turbo Vision 2.0
#22Unfortunately, I'm afraid, since this is based on the actual source code of Turbo Vision, it's non-free, so it's unusable for open source projects.
Wikipedia says there was an official Borland public domain release of the source code, which this is probably based on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Vision
Re: Modern Turbo Vision 2.0
#23Btw those text based interfaces are better than most gui/web interfaces of today.
Windows 95 was the peak of good UX, like the ancient Greek was the peak of statue crafting. Some things were better in the past.
Re: Modern Turbo Vision 2.0
#24Unfortunately, I'm afraid, since this is based on the actual source code of Turbo Vision, it's non-free, so it's unusable for open source projects.
Man I hope you are wrong.. because I was literally planning to build an IDE for Algorand/Python/PyTEAL with this (I know, mentioning Algorand is an automatic downvote, oh well). You might be right.. but I am not sure. Could Borland really sue you or something, many years they release the full source code "as is", "provided gratuitously", "no support", "no updates"? I mean it doesn't explicitly say "public domain", bu…
I hope I am wrong. But I don't see anywhere in the text of this license any explicit permission to use it for any purpose, it's basically only a warranty disclaimer, unless some bits were omitted by accident.
Re: Modern Turbo Vision 2.0
#25Unfortunately, I'm afraid, since this is based on the actual source code of Turbo Vision, it's non-free, so it's unusable for open source projects.
Man I hope you are wrong.. because I was literally planning to build an IDE for Algorand/Python/PyTEAL with this (I know, mentioning Algorand is an automatic downvote, oh well). You might be right.. but I am not sure. Could Borland really sue you or something, many years they release the full source code "as is", "provided gratuitously", "no support", "no updates"? I mean it doesn't explicitly say "public domain", bu…
For anything Python, I recommend you try rich/textual.
Re: Modern Turbo Vision 2.0
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#27Unfortunately, I'm afraid, since this is based on the actual source code of Turbo Vision, it's non-free, so it's unusable for open source projects.
Man I hope you are wrong.. because I was literally planning to build an IDE for Algorand/Python/PyTEAL with this (I know, mentioning Algorand is an automatic downvote, oh well). You might be right.. but I am not sure. Could Borland really sue you or something, many years they release the full source code "as is", "provided gratuitously", "no support", "no updates"? I mean it doesn't explicitly say "public domain", bu…
I very much doubt you can get into trouble for using Turbo Vision as an external dependency. There are already projects using it, e.g. https://github.com/electroly/tmbasic.
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#28Turbo Vision was very fun to use and I made a good bit of money contracting on small projects in grad school in the early 90s using it. It made writing text mode guis a breeze. Borland's later Object Windows Library (OWL) was, in my opinion, much clunkier but it was done in C++ compared to Turbo Vision's Pascal.
Probably the most interesting app I did was a small quality control/stats app for this book: "Quality Control 4th Edition" (https://www.amazon.com/Quality-Control-Dale-H-Besterfield/dp...). All the data entry used Turbo Vison and all the graphs and charts used BGI (Borland Graphics Interface). It was meant for student use but I found out later it was used by Jim Beam on their whiskey distillery production line.
Re: Modern Turbo Vision 2.0
#29Turbo Vision is odd. It's a backport of a graphical UI (Windows 3.0) to text mode. It was exceptionally well done in both end user and developer ease of use and caught on. But I doubt it's the optimum for a text based UI, at least for most applications. Keep evolving!
There were text mode UIs well before Windows 3.0 - Microsoft had their own TUIs, similar to Turbo Vision but with a subtly different style. They even supported a "monochrome mode" option that wouldn't look out of place on a VT-100 terminal.
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#30It reminds me of the great rhide, of djgpp fame. It was a similar project.