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Re: IPhone 4S: A5 chip, 8MP camera, and Siri voice recognition

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Post by clistctrl »

gte910h wrote: post #76
clistctrl wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would guess they're banking on LTE for the iPhone 5... so in that step up you'll see a much bigger upgrade, but as a technology LTE is probably a bit immature for Apple's standards.

LTE is still ridiculously power hungry in every device that has it. I'd like to see them avoid it until it gets a bit more under control

If it's not a unique disadvantage, do you really think it will affect sales? To overcome it I suppose they would need to find a more power efficient processor. MIMO is kind of a power hungry application what with the calculating a new spatial correlation matrix every few milliseconds. It would seem like the limitation will be universal to all other phones unless a phone manufacture buys some chip manufacturer with a mythical chip that solves the problem then keeps the tech to themselves.

Re: IPhone 4S: A5 chip, 8MP camera, and Siri voice recognition

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Post by gte910h »

WiseWeasel wrote: post #83
gte910h wrote: post #81

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>requiring a case so it can survive a fall. I never really understood this position. First off, I've dropped my phone several times, somehow it's not even scratched that I can find Secondly, gorilla glass is considerably harder than most internal components. I can't imagine what you'd be doing to the inside of a plastic phone you're dropping that hard.

While it may survive drops on relatively soft surfaces like wood or carpet, I can only assume that materials such as ceramic or concrete will win over glass. I say that as someone who has worked with glass, albeit not with Corning Gorilla Glass in particular. My naked original iPhone and 3GS phones have been dropped many times on hard surfaces (like concrete), and have only had minor dents and cracks in the plastic a…

While I've certainly dropped it on hardwood floors for most of the drops, I've dropped in into ceramic, shut a car door on it, dropped it on concrete, on asphalt, on granite, and even onto my macbookpro, which was on the floor.

(I'm not especially klutzy, I'm an iOS developer, so am constantly handling the phone and plugging and unplugging it from the cord)

That little sucker is hardy.

Re: IPhone 4S: A5 chip, 8MP camera, and Siri voice recognition

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Post by dsl »

antifuchs wrote: post #53
seanalltogether wrote: post #19

"And iPhone 4S is a world phone, so you can use it almost anywhere. Whether you’re a GSM or CDMA customer, you can roam GSM networks in 200 countries around the world." The term 'roam' is throwing me off there, does that mean you can't swap in your own sim card? That you have to use the roaming feature on whatever your current carrier is?

From footnote 4 in the tech specs at http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html ("CDMA available only if iPhone 4S is sold and activated for use on a CDMA network."), I'm guessing /hoping that if you get a CDMA phone in the US, it will come with an unlocked GSM radio.

What this means is that Apple is opting to disable the CDMA radio unless it is sold to a customer on a CDMA network. They avoid paying licensing fees to Qualcomm this way.

Re: IPhone 4S: A5 chip, 8MP camera, and Siri voice recognition

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Post by Toddward »

azulum wrote: post #91
Toddward wrote: post #46

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Apple failed to manage expectations - rumors ran rampant about a new design, larger screen, iPhone 4S and an iPhone 5, LTE/WiMAX... In the face of all the rumors of possible updates, an S version of what we already had is underwhelming. In the past Apple has done a great job of strategically leaking info to the press when rumors were getting out of hand (iPad 2 Retina Display is a recent example) - that did not happe…

i have a feeling that we've seen a variety of the iterations apple has been working on behind the scenes. apple doesn't like to comment on rumors as it might show their hand. i do think that there is an ipad with double linear resolution and an iphone with a body design/home button/larger screen similar to the rumored iphone 5. i think the disappointment comes from the fact that apples lead times are much, much longe…

Of course what spins in the rumor mill could possibly be indicative of what future iterations of the product could hold. It's a well-documented fact that Apple's product pipeline is planned out for at least the next five years. However, my point lied in the fact that Apple didn't leak anything to quell overzealous rumors (which is customary for them - of course they wouldn't comment on it publicly, but Apple does leak information to journalists to guide speculation and hype).

Re: IPhone 4S: A5 chip, 8MP camera, and Siri voice recognition

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Post by veyron »

gwright wrote: post #66
Greenisus wrote: post #7

I was hoping for an iPhone 5 with a new design, but I'm still very excited about this. The extra processing power combined with the low level speed improvements in iOS 5 are going to be HUGE for app developers. The only letdown for me is seeing Apple do things that compete with their app developers: the new Cards app, Reminders, etc.

I've been having a hard time understanding all the clamor for a new form factor. The 3G to 3GS bump was all about performance and software. It makes sense for the 4 to 4S to also be about performance and software. The next form factor change will be the iPhone 5 in the same way that the iPhone 4 was a form-factor change. This seems like a reasonable allocation of R&D dollars to me. I don't think the form factor has t…

Intel does this with their tick-tock yearly processor rollout

All numbers seem to indicate that apple can't even keep up with the iphone4 demand more than a year after the release

Re: IPhone 4S: A5 chip, 8MP camera, and Siri voice recognition

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Post by krishna2 »

WiseWeasel wrote: post #75

I'm a 32GB 3GS owner on a lapsed ATT contract, and I'll be pre-ordering a Verizon 32GB 4S model on Friday. Two things bother me, but weren't deal-breakers: 1) It sucks that it still has the iPhone 4's flawed design, with glass going right up to the edge of the front and back, requiring a case so it can survive a fall. I've always preferred to keep my iPhones naked. 2) $400 for the 64GB model with two-year contract? R…

The cost of 16GB memory is apparently $8. They are making a killing out of this.

Re: IPhone 4S: A5 chip, 8MP camera, and Siri voice recognition

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Post by timr »

itg wrote: post #42
guywithabike wrote: post #34

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I really don't get it. Why's everyone underwhelmed? Is a new case the only thing people wanted?

Seems like it. The two biggest gripes I've seen is they wanted a bigger screen and redesign. The bigger screen would have been nice, but is it really bothering so many people that it looks the same? I'm moving on from a 3GS so I plan on getting the 4S.

I'm moving on from a (near death) 3G, so I'm thrilled if the disappointed fanboys stay home on launch day. It would be agonizing if I had to wait for months while the early-adopter crowd huddled outside of Apple stores to replace their in-contract iPhone 4s with the newest shiny.

Re: IPhone 4S: A5 chip, 8MP camera, and Siri voice recognition

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Post by ghshephard »

adbge wrote: post #92
kenjackson wrote: post #36

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iOS and Mango are in the same class in fundamentals. Use a device with iOS, Mango, and Android. Honestly, try it. The iOS and Mango device respond very similarly to basic things like swipes, pinches, etc... Android is a lot more jittery, even on the SGII HW. The odd thing with Android is that it's not a LOT less jittery on the G1 (although it is). Android is second best in apps. And #1 in terms of market dominance. B…

> The iOS and Mango device respond very similarly to > basic things like swipes, pinches, etc... Android > is a lot more jittery, even on the SGII HW. Before I ditched my iPhone 3G for an Atrix, the device was barely usable. It didn't just stutter, it would hang for upwards of a minute when opening certain apps (maps, I'm looking at you), and it's not like the device was defective as I've used others and had an ident…

iPhone 3G came out in 2008 - nice, because it was new - but yes, had lots of lag - better than the competition (at the time). 3GS gave it a bit of a boost. iPhone 4 was the first (in my experience) iPhone to significantly reduce lag/latency in most areas - the shutter speed was it's achilles heel (it sucks). I'm upgrading to the 4S for one reason only - Supposed zero shutter lag.

Re: IPhone 4S: A5 chip, 8MP camera, and Siri voice recognition

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Post by jsz0 »

kenjackson wrote: post #21

This is a pretty underwhelming release. At least for waiting 16 months since the last phone. I sincerely hope Apple isn't about to do a replay of the Mac. Great introduction with incredible technology. But a few years into it, begins to stagnate. HW wise this nothing like the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 was a far superior device over the Galaxy S phones. The Galaxy S II though is pretty close to this. In terms of the raw…

If the 4S is using, more or less, the same GPU as the iPad 2 it has at least one major hardware advantage. (there seems to be about 8 different models of Galaxy S so possibly one of these random models has a better GPU than the other?)
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