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AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Post by gamacodre »

mauvehaus wrote: post #164
ajford wrote: post #160

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I wonder if that percentage of tech-savvy "elderly" is going up over time. I know I remember hearing that about anything computer related 20 years ago, but many of the people in the upper age ranges now lived with computers for a majority of their life. My grandma is not tech savvy, but can follow directions pretty well. My spouse's grandma is tech savvy to a certain level and manages her own computer and photo libra…

25 years ago, we were all bitching about having to program our parents' VCR for them. In 25 more years we'll be asking a teenager how to get TikTok beamed directly into our brains like they're doing.

I am 100% sure I will never be asking for that.

Now, figuring out how to get a containerization platform running in there might be a different matter...

Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Post by kurthr »

dangerface wrote: post #158
wubbert wrote: post #91

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A better question is, why do microwave ovens now need internet connections and software updates?

How else do you automate the hot pocket delivery system. What is this 2010? Do you expect me to order hot pockets myself like some sort of pleb?

Also, where is the cannon/trebuchet attachment!

Hot Pockets are aerodynamically designed to be delivered directly to the mouth for most destructive effect. Short (napalm like cheese), medium (gaseous effect), and long term (myocardial infarction) impacts are improved at higher ordinance deliver rates.

Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Post by ale42 »

sofixa wrote: post #7
ale42 wrote: post #3

Why in the world would one connect a microwave to the Internet in the first point?! (I guess that's the way they received the wrong update...)

Well for security updates of course! As to why it needs security updates, it's because it's connected(able) to the internet.

I see... to prevent an army of zombie ovens coordinating to DDoS some service or web site...

Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Post by freemint »

HarryHirsch wrote: post #24
sp332 wrote: post #21

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To preheat before you get home, or to make sure the oven is off after you've left. https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00049148/ With AEG's app, you can find a recipe and the app will automatically set the temperature and cooking time for you.

We had analog timers 50 years ago, so that the Sunday roast would be ready when you came home from church. This crap is unneeded, unnecessary complexity. To hell with it.

Do you always know when you come home? Can you excuse yourself with i have to leave this meeting now or my house burns down in your job?

Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Post by gumby »

thebeardisred wrote: post #159
wubbert wrote: post #91

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A better question is, why do microwave ovens now need internet connections and software updates?

To this day I wish things like WWV ( https://www.nist.gov/pml/time-and-frequency-division/time-di... ) worked better. Folks from Ninja Networks attempted to use something like that on their DEFCON 17 badges ( https://www.wired.com/2009/08/hacking-the-defcon-17-badges/ ) but it required folks to be stationary too long to sync time. Seeing as most major appliances are stationary it would have struck me as a good fit (w…

> but it required folks to be stationary too long to sync time.

I don't understand this constraint as it was possible to buy wristwatches that could do this back in the early 1990s and probably earlier (that was when I saw one for the first time).

Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Post by wil421 »

zepearl wrote: post #165
apexalpha wrote: post #124

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I mean I can think of a few options: - Pre heat oven remotely - Check on the food remotely - Have (and update) settings for specific food? I mean it's not the worst thing to connect online.

I would never ever dare to preheat remotely (and having an open Internet connection that has the potential to allow that would be a nightmare for me). My current owen actually forces me to at least open once the hatch before allowing it to be switched on (I guess that it's to force me to check if anything was previously left inside).

My wife and I both work from home and a lot of times have meetings up until 5. It would be nice to be able to start the oven so I could get my kids food into a preheated oven right at 5.

Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Post by sizzle »

anonymousiam wrote: post #145
wubbert wrote: post #91

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A better question is, why do microwave ovens now need internet connections and software updates?

I have a new "smart home" with a couple of GE convection ovens that are Internet-connected. In the 2+ years that I've owned them, I've never used the Internet control features. The ONE feature that might make Internet connectivity useful would be setting the clock. Unfortunately, the clocks cannot be set or updated via the Internet. WORTHLESS!

This is what is wrong with IoT, the one obvious feature that would end the annoying song and dance of updating daylight savings time on appliance displays, isn't even a offered. Do these old school appliance companies do a shred of user research?

Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Post by squidbot »

ale42 wrote: post #3

Why in the world would one connect a microwave to the Internet in the first point?! (I guess that's the way they received the wrong update...)

Mine connects, specifically to allow Alexa voice control. It actually comes in handy once and a while (or should I say, handless...)

The one appliance I have that has internet capability that I don't understand is my dishwasher. It has the ability to be remote started. I can't think of a single use case for this, since you need to load soap to use it, and it has a delay feature. It's a great dishwasher, and I bought it in spite of the silly internet option, which I've never enabled.

Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven

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Post by pixl97 »

anonymousiam wrote: post #145
wubbert wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A better question is, why do microwave ovens now need internet connections and software updates?

I have a new "smart home" with a couple of GE convection ovens that are Internet-connected. In the 2+ years that I've owned them, I've never used the Internet control features. The ONE feature that might make Internet connectivity useful would be setting the clock. Unfortunately, the clocks cannot be set or updated via the Internet. WORTHLESS!

I have a whirlpool 'smart' oven and it does appear to use internet time, or at least the time from the app.

About the only thing it's useful for is to remind me when its preheated.

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Post by cr3ative »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #79
chihuahua wrote: post #75

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Miele

Yeah, but their pricing is just insane. Far out of the reach of the middle class, at least in Europe. I would say Siemens and Bosch are solid while still being affordable.

Their pricing is fairly reasonable when their hugely extended lifetime is considered. The Vimes Boot theory in action.
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