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Soviet Union had a permanent veto right by statute. Russia only has it because people felt that Russia was the obvious successor despite leaving the Soviet Union before it was dissolved. If enough important countries agree that Russia has no veto, then they can rewrite convention...
Which countries are the most important? What makes them important?
Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here
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> Shipping weapons to Ukraine to defend its sovereign territory is also a good. But it creates evil by escalating battlefield lethality and depending on the service (and often sacrifice) of brave Ukrainians. Shipping those weapons does not create evil. The evil (Russian military aggression) is already there, the evil is responding to the weapons with escalation in an attempt to overwhelm to prevent defeat. The proof…
This is the same logic (albeit different analogy) of closing your eyes, outstretching your arms and swinging them widely. Somebody is still going to get hurt, even if they really should get out of the way. Strewing together moral absolutes means you stop living in the real world. Violence and war brings more evil to the world, even if it is morally justified. Your failure to acknowledge any of this is appalling. Some…
Please go ahead and make the same argument for the German Nazis. I really want to hear it. I realize in the past that Godwin would be invoked at this point, but we are now in a time where 1:1 comparisons are much more apt, especially when Russians are falsely labeling Ukrainians as "Nazis".
What you're basically saying is that we should just let invaders commit their violence and trust that we will be better off laying down than standing up.
You say that someone whose lost their entire extended family and village would have been better off surrendering to the invaders who killed them. Why? Why does that follow? What is stopping the invaders from killing your friends and family and razing your village after they have conquered your country? At some point you actually have to stand up to protect your family from the people trying to kill them. Because what's to prevent them from setting up death camps at that point? What if their goal is not to occupy your country but to exterminate it?
And what of Ukraine? What happens to the country when Russia takes over? They will destroy that which makes Ukraine unique and rewrite the history for its people and the world. The Republic of Venice remembers what happens when you let the invaders take over. Hundreds of years after the republic surrendered to the invading Napoleon, the Republic of Venice still has not recovered and may never. For a lot of Ukrainians, this could mean the literal end of their country. Where do you live? Do you love your country? Would you appreciate if some people decided they wanted to erase the country you love from world maps? Would you fight to protect it or would you just let it happen?
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You may be shocked what you're capable of when everything is on the line. Don't count yourself out until you (very hopefully never) are in the same situation.
Ukraine is at a crossroads: join the rest of Europe or be dragged down into a dictatorship run by oligarchs. Giving up is not an option. If Russia wins the country is fucked for another generation.
The thing is, there is no "winning" for Russia. Even if the "special military operation" ends with some kind of agreement and Putin declares a "victory" (which he will no matter what), he and the country will remain a pariah to much of the world, not unlike Qaddafi's Libya.
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Seems that Russian forum trolling/disinformation spreading is about as sophisticated and effective as their offensive military capability.
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#85Can you explain me what the "Alley of Angels" in Donetsk is?
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#86Can you explain me what the "Alley of Angels" in Donetsk is?
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#87Like every other day, I was shopping this morning at my local bakery in Warsaw, Poland. As I was packing my purchases, a woman next in line after me ordered coffee in Ukrainian. (We have it lucky. Polish and Ukrainian are mutually intelligible to some extent, which enables basic communication even without knowing each other's languages.) I said, to no one in particular, "Do widzenia, слава Україні" as I was leaving.…
He roughly said “See you, glory to Ukraine” and she replied “Glory to the Heroes!!” Be safe!!
The greeting "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!" became an official slogan of Stepan Bandera's Nazi allied OUN-B in April 1941. OUN actively participated in holocaust and other atrocities during WW2. [1]
In other words, he roughly said "See you, Heil Hitler!" and she replied "Sieg Heil!"
Be safe!! Take care of yourselves!!
[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glory_to_Ukraine
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Ukrainian_Nati...
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He roughly said “See you, glory to Ukraine” and she replied “Glory to the Heroes!!” Be safe!!
The modern response "Heroiam slava!" (Glory to the heroes!) appeared in the 1930s among members of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN). [0] The greeting "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!" became an official slogan of Stepan Bandera's Nazi allied OUN-B in April 1941. OUN actively participated in holocaust and other atrocities during WW2. [1] In other words, he roughly said "See you, Heil Hitler!" an…
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He roughly said “See you, glory to Ukraine” and she replied “Glory to the Heroes!!” Be safe!!
The modern response "Heroiam slava!" (Glory to the heroes!) appeared in the 1930s among members of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN). [0] The greeting "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!" became an official slogan of Stepan Bandera's Nazi allied OUN-B in April 1941. OUN actively participated in holocaust and other atrocities during WW2. [1] In other words, he roughly said "See you, Heil Hitler!" an…
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My own views sort of shifted but not in the same way. I was 17 when the War in Iraq started. My view at the time was of very skeptical support; having lived through the 90s I had an engrained view that the world needed to use force to help prevent ethnic cleansing. We didn't intervene early enough or strongly enough in Rwanda, and that particularly bothered me. After the beginning of the war, I pretty quickly became…
Trump is still the only US president in this century that didn't start a war, neither directly nor indirectly. He should get some credits because of that. As for his internal politics, as a non-American I don't care, as long as USA isn't concerned about internal and external politics of the countries I have some connection with. And also in that regard, the best US president ever since I remember, and that goes back…
Coolidge and Hoover?