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Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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It is amazing how this inspiring willingness to fight for the bare essentials that the West has for so long forgotten the need to be ready to be fight for has transformed the West and given it meaning again.

Reminds me of Leo Strauss, a philosopher often cited by the neoconservatives and therefore of course dismissed by most of us but I think there's more nuance in his understanding of the world and this feels to me like a very Straussian moment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss

You are amazing, Ukraine! Fighting for freedom of thought in a world still half led by visions of totalitarianism. Visions that were not shed decades ago as we falsely believed.

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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It is amazing how this inspiring willingness to fight for the bare essentials that the West has for so long forgotten the need to be ready to be fight for has transformed the West and given it meaning again. Reminds me of Leo Strauss, a philosopher often cited by the neoconservatives and therefore of course dismissed by most of us but I think there's more nuance in his understanding of the world and this feels to me…

> Visions that were not shed decades ago as we falsely believed.

Who is "we" exactly...? Because the GWB presidency was very much an embodiment of such a vision, and it was only stopped by a literal hurricane.

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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On the topic of helping, does anyone have ideas/tips on how to help refugees attempting to communicate with the embassies in another country for refugee status/assistance?

I have extended family from Ukraine that speaks very little English and also can’t communicate in the countries native language that they fled to, but my partner and I cannot call those embassies to help relay information because we’re in the USA and our numbers don’t work. We have a few roundabout ideas to try(ie call the family on WhatsApp and be on speakerphone), but we’re wondering if anyone has experience doing this or knows of any agencies on the ground that are providing help around this?

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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It is amazing how this inspiring willingness to fight for the bare essentials that the West has for so long forgotten the need to be ready to be fight for has transformed the West and given it meaning again. Reminds me of Leo Strauss, a philosopher often cited by the neoconservatives and therefore of course dismissed by most of us but I think there's more nuance in his understanding of the world and this feels to me…

> Visions that were not shed decades ago as we falsely believed. Who is "we" exactly...? Because the GWB presidency was very much an embodiment of such a vision, and it was only stopped by a literal hurricane.

It's interesting to me to hear you say that. I would say that about Trump but not GWB in hindsight. At that time I was of the opinion you share and I remember feeling that GWB was essentially everything that was bad in the world… but in hindsight I realize how narrowly scoped my vision was and the spectrum is so much bigger and in fact I now believe it's important to be willing to find common ground with conservatives who at least believe in the free world. Trump I genuinely do not believe believed in the free world and the rule of law and in the value of our institutions

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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"(...) returned to Kharkiv to do something useful for the city. With no military experience and even no driving license, I do things on a very small scale"

The sense of due duty to your community beyond your family and your own life. I am not really sure I would have the courage to do that.

To Zverok: respect and good luck. To the rest: support Ukraine.

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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> There is a rumor that Putin had recently made a personal order to damage as much of Kharkiv as possible, to retaliate for breaking the hope of being “pro-Russian.” And however absurd it might sound, I am close to believing it because there seems to be no other point in doing what they do now.

I have the same impression, just old bitter fart and shadow of a man he once was, entrenched in his untouchable position, throwing childish deadly tantrums on a nation that decided to stood up to him as one.

An idea - even if they laugh on ICT in Haag, what if there would be international arrest warrant on all those sanctioned persons including him, no diplomatic immunity? Meaning they can't travel most of the world, forever. Just a nuisance maybe. but proverbial death by thousand cuts starts somewhere. And remove russia from permanent UN security council for the duration of 'special operation', since they just veto everything now.

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On the topic of helping, does anyone have ideas/tips on how to help refugees attempting to communicate with the embassies in another country for refugee status/assistance? I have extended family from Ukraine that speaks very little English and also can’t communicate in the countries native language that they fled to, but my partner and I cannot call those embassies to help relay information because we’re in the USA a…

Look for established and older Ukrainian diaspora groups in the country in question. Also many of the countries have established portals for refugees. Try to vet any helpers, unfortunately there are criminals that prey on refugees

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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On the topic of helping, does anyone have ideas/tips on how to help refugees attempting to communicate with the embassies in another country for refugee status/assistance? I have extended family from Ukraine that speaks very little English and also can’t communicate in the countries native language that they fled to, but my partner and I cannot call those embassies to help relay information because we’re in the USA a…

You could just contact Polish organization (if they are in Poland) if u want i can link few organizations.

Right now we have about 2milion UA refugees in Poland and about 2-3 million immigrants so they should be able to have normal life for a short period of time and communicate in Russian/Ukrainian in most places cause of enormous polish efforts otherwise they should go to Poland and from there you could start supporting them.

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