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An AI designed keyboard layout (2021)

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Re: An AI designed keyboard layout (2021)

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Dvorak touchtyper since 2010 is here ^_^ I appreciate any attempts to make August Dvorak's work even better. For example, that claster of wovels is not AI's work but Dvorak's. BTW there is one strange claim from my POW: > QWERTY - 0% (baseline) > Dvorak - +77% > Colemak - +84% > Workman - +101% > Halmak - +134% If author considers Colemak and Workman more efficient than Dvorak, I should not even to give this layout a…

You make a good point about finger strength, not something I had considered.

Another issue is the dataset used for evaluation here. If they used a sample of the regular English language, that's likely to differ from the sort of typing that a programmer does, not just in punctuation, or it's likely to differ for those who type other languages.

It's a shame the cost of learning a new layout is so high, because there's so much scope to optimise for each person, what they type, how they type.

Re: An AI designed keyboard layout (2021)

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Not as good as this! https://www.charachorder.com/ 500wpm apparently!

Is this for real?

To me, it looks way too error prone (3D movement per key... wat) and english only.

I honestly wondered whether it was a stunt from Cards Against Humanity or The Onion.

But if not, you got me curious.

Re: An AI designed keyboard layout (2021)

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I love the prominence of the "Swedish Road sign" aka "Command Key" aka "Apple Key". ⌘

"Swedish road sign" as this is the sign for interesting old stuff near the road. Various dictionaries like translate "fornlämning" to "ancient site" or "ancient monument". I think americans have the term "heritage site"? I think thats a better translation.

Re: An AI designed keyboard layout (2021)

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Apart from the technical merits, I always appreciate "hacker" naming of software.

"The name is a combination of HAL-9000, as a reference to the layout being designed by an AI. And, Dvorak as a gratitude to Mr. Dvorak for his dedication to the layouts optimizations process. The letter m in between is just to make it sound nicer. Or is it!?..."

I suppose the "m" is for MadRabbit, the author. Nice touch.

Re: An AI designed keyboard layout (2021)

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post #9

Dvorak touchtyper since 2010 is here ^_^ I appreciate any attempts to make August Dvorak's work even better. For example, that claster of wovels is not AI's work but Dvorak's. BTW there is one strange claim from my POW: > QWERTY - 0% (baseline) > Dvorak - +77% > Colemak - +84% > Workman - +101% > Halmak - +134% If author considers Colemak and Workman more efficient than Dvorak, I should not even to give this layout a…

> Probably it is because I am a piano player since 2016 and the fingers which are weak on average people are not that weak for me

This reminds of my situation. I'm not a piano player, and I used to type with basically two fingers (plus thumb for space and pinky for ctrl/alt/shift). Since I've started trying to use more fingers, I've noticed that using a traditional, non split keyboard, is more painful, because it requires me to twist my wrists sideways. With my old way of typing, I would move the whole hand instead, so the wrist angle would stay roughly the same.

Re: An AI designed keyboard layout (2021)

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Looks cool :) Can't use it cause my alphabet has three more letters than the English.

fwiw, I speak German and find the german layout to be insultingly unusable, especially for coding. So I use the american hardware layout (which lack three german letters) and type Umlaute äöü with alt+u+{a|o|u}. It doesn't feel like it adds significant overhead, I've built the muscle memory within minutes. Any acceptable operating system should allow for such mappings, on macos this is active by default.

Re: An AI designed keyboard layout (2021)

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Apart from the technical merits, I always appreciate "hacker" naming of software. "The name is a combination of HAL-9000, as a reference to the layout being designed by an AI. And, Dvorak as a gratitude to Mr. Dvorak for his dedication to the layouts optimizations process. The letter m in between is just to make it sound nicer. Or is it!?..." I suppose the "m" is for MadRabbit, the author. Nice touch.

Also kinda makes it sound like "hallmark" which makes the name catchier
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