Just an FYI but PSPDFKit has a very predatory sales model. Our organization received pricing that was generally very high and we pushed back on it because we were a startup and it was outside of our budget. I've connected with several other customers of PSPDFKit over the years and they almost all have much more reasonable pricing. Beware!
Maybe I’m missing something but how is that a “predatory sales model”? Their prices may be too high, so you declined to pay. I don’t see that as predatory.
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#112https://transloadit.com offers similar composable workflows in a single request, and supports more file types besides PDFs.
Disclosure, I am a founder :)
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#113Do you have any plan in your roadmap to support different languages in the OCR feature? I'm specifically interested in recognize and processing PDF files written in Japanese and Korean. I am also dealing with some clients that are struggling with processing handwriting in their document, but I guess it will be a little far fetched.
At the moment we don’t include Japanese and Korean, but I’ll take a note around your questions.
Handwriting is definitely a different beast, that’s not supported.
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#114Would be great to have a file upload button to test the OCR API from the UI, without to perform the CURL. Just to test how your API works from UI.
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So, no compliance with printing industry standards. That's a pity.
I don't know about printing industry and their compatibility requirements. Would you mind elaborate a bit on this (I occasionally do some pdf output, so I'd like to avoid basic mistakes)?
Files for printing production need to have their fonts embedded, color profiles attached/at least tagged to images, transparency dealt with, lots of stuff that ensures that the PDF itself contains all the necessary information for a successful reproducting/printing on a printing machine of any kind.
As printing production systems have evolved, the rules became "less strict" as all (most) the systems can now handle transparency natively, for example. That for example was a big change with PDF/X4, before you had to convert (keyword is "transparency reduction") all transparencies and factor them into the underlying elements.
Most PDF generators out there are not able to follow the rules of ISO/the PDF/X specifications, so print shops might have a hard time handling that data, due to various missing pieces of information.
That's normally no deal for your office printer, but when you are looking at large(r) printing operations, it surely is.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know about printing industry and their compatibility requirements. Would you mind elaborate a bit on this (I occasionally do some pdf output, so I'd like to avoid basic mistakes)?
What you would typically be looking at, is compliance witt the PDF/X standards [1] in various levels, which are basically ISO norms for PDFs. Files for printing production need to have their fonts embedded, color profiles attached/at least tagged to images, transparency dealt with, lots of stuff that ensures that the PDF itself contains all the necessary information for a successful reproducting/printing on a printin…
> Most PDF generators out there are not able ...
Do you know of any compatible?
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Libreoffice only does a mediocre job of rendering Word documents. There are a number of cases where it really mangles things. An example would be some types of bulleted lists or indentation.
Given the GP's and your differing experiences, I wonder in which circumstances it works and in which it doesn't.
1) OpenXML is an open standard and like HTML it is interpreted and rendered, much like a browser. MS Word is obviously the reference here. But in certain cases, you will see differences when using other renderers. If you wrote the document in Word and then view it in LibreOffice or wherever, those differences are going to seem pretty glaring. It's possible to fix your document to not run into these issues, but because OpenXML has cascading styles and Word can often times produce quite messy output, it's hard to know what is going to not work well. It has taken the web 20+ years to get to a place where the difference between renderers is small enough to not be a big headache.
2) In OpenXML there is no concept of a page. Everything is relative and only at render time do you know how it looks. PDFs do have a concept of a page and are absolute - so that translation can be quite important and another source of rendering issues. An example of this is in Excel: people do need to print spreadsheets and if you want it to not look obnoxious you have to fiddle with the settings to get everything looking good. If you convert a spreadsheet to PDF you're more or less doing the same thing. However, in an automated context you can't make the judgements needed to make it look good - so you will often times end up with PDFs that have hundreds and hundreds of pages and look awful.
For 1) Microsoft could just release an API or some kind of package that gives you the output that matches Word and it would solve all of this. But at that point OpenXML ceases to be really open because nobody would want to use anything else. For 2) That's a lot harder to solve.
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#120Nice set of tools!! I recently launched a PDF-related project. https://www.scholars.io It's a tool for reading research papers (PDFs) together with your colleagues. You can read, annotate, comment etc. Needless to say, it led me down quite deep into the PDF world and it.. was interesting.
Incidentally, I wonder if you can answer a question: I want my books in an electronic format, that will be usable for the rest of my life or longer, and which preservers annotations. As far as I know, PDF/A is the only format that fits the first two specs. I know annotations are in the PDF specs but is it reasonable to think that annotations I make today will be readable - and updatable - in (e.g.,) 30 years?
The PDF 2.0 standard removed some parts of PDF 1.7, like the proprietary XFA forms. But most things stayed in PDF 2.0 and one can expect that those annotations will also be available in future iterations of the PDF specification.
And generally, since future PDF viewers will need to be able to view older documents (think: all the (signed) documents created by governments), you can expect PDFs created today to be usable in 30 years and more.