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Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Post by UltimateFloofy »

tyre wrote: post #97
bena wrote: post #73

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EMR software, like all medical software, suffers from a variation of the Dead Sea Effect. Those who are truly invested in EMR software are not developers and developers are not invested in EMR software. So, as a developer, it's a job you take because you need a job. And if you're competent, you can get a job elsewhere eventually. If you're not, well, it's not like medical software has a deep talent pool to draw from.…

> developers are not invested in EMR software I know a handful of companies that went through YC trying to build EMR software and have met many more people since who are interested in this problem. It is not a lack of interest from engineers.

Hey! I'm one of those people. I'm building an Ophthalmology EMR. But I do have a question for you at your past job. At Curative were the labs/exams handled on site, or was it partnered with a lab to handle them?

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Post by fourtrees »

sjtindell wrote: post #63
atdrummond wrote: post #40

I and some others in the healthcare/healthcare tech spaces volunteered to create a discharge templating system for many of the top non-English and non-Spanish languages used in the United States - specifically the top languages in the Northwest to start. Our offering utilized data from, and would have been integrated with, an EMR whose name means "particularly impressive" even if their response was anything but. Afte…

My partner has used an EMR called Epic in her work and it, like all EMRs it seems, is trash. Government protections and a moat of network effects, they’re untouchable.

I agree, the EMR implementation/enhancements were a giant handout to consultancies, hospitals, maybe clinics that's now enshrined in law. It was a travesty and likely ended up costing more for lesser benefit. The effects were of course felt in impoverished areas more than in suburbia, as hospitals clinics and are poorer, consultancies are (almost) not existent. It was a grift -- even academia got in on the money training!

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Post by sonicggg »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #126
ThinBold wrote: post #123

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I guess I know why the parent is downvoted but in the end the responsibility is on both sides. If you don't speak fluent English you ask for interpreters in Spanish, Chinese, you name it. You can't insists on speaking an unpopular dialect/accents, can't even specify what best describe your dialect/accents, and expect anything from the hospitals.

People don't choose their native languages and everyone should expect adequate care at a hospital when they need it.

They do choose to move somewhere where their language is not spoken.

As stated in this article, the woman was receiving service in Arizona. The official language in that state is English, so you should expect services to be offered in that language.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Post by namelosw »

Although Taiwanese Mandarin and Mainland Mandarin are almost perfectly intelligible to each other, they have diverged from each other when it comes to modern nouns, especially in the fields of technology and medical science, etc.

To make the problem even worse, Google Translate only provides "Chinese (Simplified)" and "Chinese (Traditional)" instead of "Taiwanese Mandarin" or "Mainland Mandarin". While these two character sets can one to one map with each other, the result could be confusing for the user.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Post by charcircuit »

jquery wrote: post #12

Deepl is a better option. It feels several years ahead of Google Translate in quality. I know enough Japanese to hurt myself, and Deepl is definitely giving the superior translations, by far, which is great for my studies. As an analogy, it’s like going from 144p to 360p (a good human translation ranges from 720p to 4k+). Yeah 360p video is still blurry but it’s in a different league than 144p.

Sometimes Google translate is better. Sometimes it's the same. Sometimes both fail to translate correctly. DeepL is only better on average. I've found deepl to leave out sentences from the source text and sometimes it gets bugged and starts translating inaccurately and you have to refresh the page.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Post by LAC-Tech »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #107
LAC-Tech wrote: post #86

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Right, but when people say "Hokkien" in English they generally mean 閩南語 - though I've also heard the term "Southern Min" used.

OK? I don't see why that would make it less shocking for Hokkien not to be spoken in the region that shares its name. It's like saying "they speak English in England, too". Of course they do; that's what "English" means.

Yeah fair enough. Just pointing out the word Hokkien in English does not really mean 福建, even if that's where the word comes from.

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Post by seattle_spring »

fvv wrote: post #70
BaronVonSteuben wrote: post #38

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Yep, absolutely. My doctor of 10+ years recently retired, leaving me in search of a new doc. I've been managing my pain for 15+ years just fine with 10mg Hydrocodone. In 15 years I only once asked to increase the dose, and it was only from two pills per day to three to help me get through the afternoon/evening better. A minuscule dose. After doing "new patient" appointments (which by the way were like $200 to $300 ea…

Sorry if i sound blatantly stupid with my question, maybe In your case this could not be a sufficient solution for pain but did you ever tried with something like Marijuana and if it's illegal in you state considered migrating where it's legal? Or even considered to relocate to somewhere where you can get access to proper medication ?

Weed is a joke medication for many (most, I'd argue) types of pain. And yes it is condescending to suggest it to a longtime sufferer of chronic pain. It's akin to asking a suicidal person if they've tried exercising.

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Post by behringer »

NineStarPoint wrote: post #128
google234123 wrote: post #76

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A meta study of 38 studies from 7 years ago on patients using opioids for chronic pain found that 21-29% of the patients misuse the drugs and 8-12% of the patients are addicted to them. That doesn't seem "extremely small" like you said, though maybe it's better now. I think there are reasons why opioids are no longer recommended for the treatment of most patients with chronic pain that you aren't fairly acknowledging…

I’ll agree I wouldn’t describe that as extremely small. The misuse stat is pretty bad. The addiction though…essentially for every 10 people who are treated for chronic pain, 1 of them gets addicted? With 9/10 of those people getting to live a more pleasant life…Chronic pain is awful, and the good done by alleviating it might be worth that cost.

And let's not forget the 1/10 very likely would be in extreme pain bordering on torture instead of addiction. It's lose lose for them.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Post by dijonman2 »

buildsjets wrote: post #106
dijonman2 wrote: post #74

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You can buy oxy on the street. Super expensive. $1/mg.

And 50/50 odds it's actually an unknown dosage of fentanyl.

Not true! They’re real pills sold by people who have an rx in my case.

Be smart and learn how to identify fakes. I can spot fake m30s by texture.

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