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Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Usually your staff comes from the local population which gives you staff members who speak the languages you would need.

There are relatively few native French speakers in Vancouver..

They have plenty of employment opportunities though - having fluent french on your resume opens up a whole lot of opportunities with companies that are required to offer some french language support (i.e. train stations, government offices)

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Why is Google translate still so bad? I remember that when it was introduced many years ago it was horribly bad but it's badness was a hope that things will improve quickly. And after so many years and so much data available to google it's still that bad.

It is amazing how quickly we go from not knowing how to do something to complaining that it is not good enough.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting that Google translate is good enough for medical translation; we should still be employing people for this job.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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This article says they used Google Translate for "Taiwanese to English, English to Taiwanese", but Google Translate doesn't list 'Taiwanese' as a language. It does list 'Chinese (Traditional)' and I guess that's what they were using.

"Taiwanese" is an ambiguous term. The official language of Taiwan is Mandarin Chinese, same as spoken on the mainland, which Google Translate does speak. However, many Taiwanese speak Hokkien (Fujianese/Min Nan) or Hakka (Kejia), both "dialects" (languages) of Chinese that Google Translate does not support.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Why is Google translate still so bad? I remember that when it was introduced many years ago it was horribly bad but it's badness was a hope that things will improve quickly. And after so many years and so much data available to google it's still that bad.

They rolled out a major upgrade in 2016 that switched to deep learning powered models, which in my experience made the translations far better. Still not perfect, of course, but for even remotely related languages (eg. most in Europe) it actually does a pretty amazing job now.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Yep, absolutely. My doctor of 10+ years recently retired, leaving me in search of a new doc. I've been managing my pain for 15+ years just fine with 10mg Hydrocodone. In 15 years I only once asked to increase the dose, and it was only from two pills per day to three to help me get through the afternoon/evening better. A minuscule dose. After doing "new patient" appointments (which by the way were like $200 to $300 ea…

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Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Why is Google translate still so bad? I remember that when it was introduced many years ago it was horribly bad but it's badness was a hope that things will improve quickly. And after so many years and so much data available to google it's still that bad.

Maybe it’s best it could without having consciousness and/or contexts. Translations only go so far by literal texts alone.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Why are translation services the issue here? Why isn’t the issue: non-English speakers allowed to practice medicine on people without being able to talk to them. I’m seriously fed up with this nonsense. If I’m moving to a country, I’m learning the damned language. Reply to me if you want to talk to someone who endured 5 years of university education delivered incoherently by non-English speakers. I wasted lots of mon…

Isn't the article about patients who don't speak English, not doctors?

Come to any Australian city and try to get into a GP (who isn’t booked out for a month). Odds are the language barrier will prevent a lot of meaningful communication and you won’t get good help.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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My SO had to seek medical attention in rural southern France (we were visiting Carcassone) - she initially sought care at the local emerg where there was not a translator available, she speaks high-school french but most of the conversation was carried out through miming and charades. A few days later, as instructed, she followed up with a local clinic where she prepared a written version of her condition and brought…

> I think it's reasonable to rely on tools like Google Translate, it sucks but full language coverage isn't reasonable. Far better than what was possible before, when as a tourist you maybe had a phrasebook or something similar. This is part of the risk of travel into an area where you don't know the language. Also if you are going to permanently move to such a place, it's incumbent on you to become functionally flue…

The difficulty with "functional fluency" is that medical terms are extremely specific. On top of that you have to deal with "doctors in X recognize this illness, but doctors in Y recognize it as something entirely different"-style stuff. Alergies can be a scary one to get wrong, too!

Of course nobody owes anybody anything. I do think that in countries with nationalized health care, at the very least having a call center to help out with language difficulties around this feels like almost a no brainer though.

There are doctors with specialized dictionaries and the like as well, of course.

And... yeah honestly, Google Translate (or my favorite solution of "go to wikipedia page and find the linked article in local language") can help a lot.

Re: Doctors who use Google Translate to talk to patients want a better option

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Yep, absolutely. My doctor of 10+ years recently retired, leaving me in search of a new doc. I've been managing my pain for 15+ years just fine with 10mg Hydrocodone. In 15 years I only once asked to increase the dose, and it was only from two pills per day to three to help me get through the afternoon/evening better. A minuscule dose. After doing "new patient" appointments (which by the way were like $200 to $300 ea…

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