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Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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how does this get through the MS smartscreen and authenticode checks?

In fact this is how you get past SmartScreen checks. Windows freaks out a lot more when it sees the same file being downloaded by lots of people, but if you make them all different, then it calms down.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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post #3

Is the current Mozilla CEO a plant by Google with the goal of driving Mozilla into the ground as much as possible? I don't understand how they can keep fucking up their business so badly.

A download identifier really isn't that bad. Maybe they need to actually show some numbers of their downloads to justify budgets and other things. It's not like they are having tracking JavaScript on 80% of the worlds Web sites like someone else I know, starting with Googl...

Download counts dont need you to embed a unique token.

At the most basic level, you can get this by doing a count over http logs.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

#45

> A quick check of Chrome installers returned identical hashes each time. OK, however, are we completely sure that Chrome installer doesn't generate this token on launch and talk with the mothership? This sounds like whitewashing Chrome just to increase the impact of the article or push Chrome or both. Like Chrome is not tracking me in and out of the internet and in the kitchen making tea and noting its brand and rep…

Considering that ~everyone was tracking device or installation IDs before Apple cracked down on it, on iOS, I think it's a safe bet that ~everyone is still doing it on desktop, and yeah, generating at install time is probably enough for most use cases and makes your build and distribution processes simpler.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Firefox users who prefer to download the browser without the unique identifier may do so in the following two ways: Download the Firefox installer from Mozilla's HTTPS repository (formerly the FTP repository). Download Firefox from third-party download sites that host the installer, e.g., from Softonic. It's nuts and another indication Mozilla doesn't understand the reason they exist, but it's not that hard to get ar…

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Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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They seem to be trying to gather a lot of telemetry to measure how they can boost popularity of Firefox. I wonder did they tried to measure how the measurement itself influences popularity? Social measurements are like quantum ones, they change reality. There was a funny story of a Hawthorn Experiment[1], which tried to find ways to boost productivity but at the end managed to state just that the very attempt to cond…

Well they've spent a decade trying the "be more like Chrome" method. I suggest they try the "be more like Firefox from when Firefox was successful" method.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

#49

I don't really understand telemetry. How is Google Analytics helping them to improve the browser? Is it to see which features are actually being used?

Imagine you could stick a camera over your users' shoulders, mostly without them knowing you're doing it, instead of doing actual user research.

That's what the stuff's for. Some of the tools for these things record entire sessions, including mouse movements. It's creepy as hell and even the tamest of "telemetry" 100% would have gotten something classed, unambiguously, as spyware, in the distant past of ~15-20 years ago.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

#50

This wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't that the entire brand identity of Firefox is Privacy. It's like discovering there's ham in a vegetarian sandwich. When you ask them they look puzzled and say their focus group was clear it tastes a lot better that way, besides it's just a little bit and the bread is vegetarian and there's way more meat in a Big Mac.

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