5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police

Post by matheusmoreira » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 4:59 PM UTC

thematrixturtle wrote: post #131

philovivero wrote: post #4

Sometimes I think this sounds conspiratorial, and surely isn't happening. Who has the time or money to pay 5 people to just go around harassing and stalking people for political gain only? Then I remember the story of the lady in East Germany who, after it fell, managed to get the Stasi records that finally proved that yes, they had been stalking her, harassing her, and spying on her. They would do things like wait u…

This was an actual documented Stasi tactic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung

Post by solveit » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

pphysch wrote: post #137

solveit wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And is the Ukrainean state actually fascist? How about Korea? In the absence of UN intervention, would there have arisen an authoritarian state that was a menace to not only its own citizens but every neighbouring country? Clearly Ukraine is not fascist and Korea would have been. There is a difference.

North Korea is fascist, but harmlessly so. Despite endless flexing and threat inflation, they haven't actually done much harm since invading the South 70 years ago. The main problem with fascism in Nazi Germany, Zionist Israel, and Banderite Ukraine is that these fascist states have overt policies of ethnic cleansing. IOW the "fascism" part isn't necessarily bad (unless you are a liberal chauvinist), it's the ethnic…

Post by pegasus » Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 11:40 PM UTC

pphysch wrote: post #188

kelnos wrote: post #140

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Except Ukraine isn't a "hostile fascist entity", and Putin knows that. Ukraine is (well, sadly, was ) in danger of becoming more democratically- and West-aligned, which Putin (irrationally, IMO) feared, but my take on it is that he's really motivated mostly by fallen-empire envy. (Granted, that's just my opinion; I don't know what Putin is actually thinking.)

We're seeing the fascism part of full display as Zelensky refuses to surrender, instead preferring to throw civilian bodies to the altar in sacrifice of the Nation. Imagine cheering on Saddam Hussein as he hopelessly hung onto power and sacrificed thousands of innocents. This is precisely what the Western establishment media is doing right now, modulo Zelensky, because he's the "good guy". The hostile part has been o…