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Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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post #12

wtf Mozilla, why are you making me stop using you?

As if there was any serious alternative that wasn't much worse.

I mean if they both are going off the deep end for tracking chrome is faster and a ton of developers seem to only care if it works on chrome....

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

#32
post #17

> This will allow us to track which installs result from which downloads to determine the answers to questions like, "Why do we see so many installs per day, but not that many downloads per day?" What value does Mozilla see in being able to do that?

The prevailing belief in the industry is that any problem can be solved with more data, dumpster-grade[1] though it may be. It's appealing to think that it can be used in lieu of just making thoughtful decisions.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25016532

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

#33
post #17

> This will allow us to track which installs result from which downloads to determine the answers to questions like, "Why do we see so many installs per day, but not that many downloads per day?" What value does Mozilla see in being able to do that?

I have no idea what the actual answer is, but one can image that they want to understand where are people getting these copies of ff if they do not download them themselves.

Why would this be important, again just speculating: to try to leverage whatever channel this might uncover to distribute even more copies of the browser.

Is this ID thing the best way to do it, though? Probably.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

#37

Package manager installations wouldn't have this problem because everybody gets the same copy of the same binary and associated files, rights?

Correct and it's just one of many reasons why checksums and signatures are so important in package managers. There's an automatic enforcement of privacy and integrity.

Reproducible builds are important as well.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

#38
> A quick check of Chrome installers returned identical hashes each time.

OK, however, are we completely sure that Chrome installer doesn't generate this token on launch and talk with the mothership?

This sounds like whitewashing Chrome just to increase the impact of the article or push Chrome or both.

Like Chrome is not tracking me in and out of the internet and in the kitchen making tea and noting its brand and reporting to Google.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

#39
This wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't that the entire brand identity of Firefox is Privacy.

It's like discovering there's ham in a vegetarian sandwich. When you ask them they look puzzled and say their focus group was clear it tastes a lot better that way, besides it's just a little bit and the bread is vegetarian and there's way more meat in a Big Mac.

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