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Re: Nova 9

#101

Post by yurishimo »

SomeCallMeTim wrote: post #60
ozarker wrote: post #23

I think it’s commendable to be pushing native purpose-built apps in this day and age.

Commendable..? Or short-sighted? I exclusively use Linux and Windows; I see something like this and ... it's a disappointment. I think what's "commendable" is cross-platform development, breaking out of walled gardens to support everyone.

Eh. There are plenty of tools and programs that are windows only and that will never change. There will always be vendor lock in as long as vendors exist.

I’d rather have teams start with high quality apps and branch out when it makes sense for them. Maybe it never will make sense for them and that’s okay!

Re: Nova 9

#102

Post by hit8run »

sparker72678 wrote: post #98
hit8run wrote: post #90

I bought a license some time ago because I want a native Mac IDE to succeed! I use Nova for Rails development and it feels quite pleasing. I also use Jetbrains and Sublime but avoid VSCode wherever I can. Too many plugins and not enough out of the box combined with less intelligent refactoring (Jetbrains is unbeaten here). Nova is amazing fresh air and whenever an update lands it’s like a little present and I get exc…

I really want to use Nova for my Rails projects but keep going back to RubyMine because the code completion/jumping just isn’t even close, imo.

I know what you mean. I did a bundle install --path vendor/bundle and this makes the go to definition a little better because solargraph has trouble finding things outside the project itself. Try it and test if it gets a little better for you. But yes Rubymine is better in this regard. On the other hand I can't get the tailwind extension working in Jetbrains with the Rails 7 standalone tailwind. Tailwind extension works in Nova.

Re: Nova 9

#103

Post by Dragory »

yurishimo wrote: post #101
SomeCallMeTim wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Commendable..? Or short-sighted? I exclusively use Linux and Windows; I see something like this and ... it's a disappointment. I think what's "commendable" is cross-platform development, breaking out of walled gardens to support everyone.

Eh. There are plenty of tools and programs that are windows only and that will never change. There will always be vendor lock in as long as vendors exist. I’d rather have teams start with high quality apps and branch out when it makes sense for them. Maybe it never will make sense for them and that’s okay!

There might be an oversaturation of Mac native apps on the HN front page relative to Linux/Windows native apps. I, too, feel a bit disappointed when they are posted for the same reason as SomeCallMeTim (especially if it's not clear from the post's title that it's Mac exclusive and it only becomes apparent deep into the linked page), but I also know there are tons of native tools for Windows and Linux — they're just not discussed here as often. Though this could also be confirmation bias on my part.

Re: Nova 9

#104

Post by SomeCallMeTim »

Dragory wrote: post #103
yurishimo wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh. There are plenty of tools and programs that are windows only and that will never change. There will always be vendor lock in as long as vendors exist. I’d rather have teams start with high quality apps and branch out when it makes sense for them. Maybe it never will make sense for them and that’s okay!

There might be an oversaturation of Mac native apps on the HN front page relative to Linux/Windows native apps. I, too, feel a bit disappointed when they are posted for the same reason as SomeCallMeTim (especially if it's not clear from the post's title that it's Mac exclusive and it only becomes apparent deep into the linked page), but I also know there are tons of native tools for Windows and Linux — they're just n…

Almost every tool in my current weekly use is cross-platform, with the one exception being Visual Studio (and that only when I'm working on a C# app and I don't really have a choice in the matter).

And I use a ton of proprietary tools: SmartGit, Beyond Compare, DataGrip, Postman, Word/Excel, Sublime, Docker Desktop, Blender, Slack, Discord...

The only thing I can find that's Windows-only are the two tools that make up for the shortcomings of Windows shells: MSYS2 and ConEmu.

Seriously; cross-platform (or at least multi-platform) is the future. The frequent posting of Mac-exclusive apps seems to be more about Mac-snobs trying to brag about (and justify) their decision to rely on Macs.

Re: Nova 9

#105

Post by SomeCallMeTim »

yurishimo wrote: post #101
SomeCallMeTim wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Commendable..? Or short-sighted? I exclusively use Linux and Windows; I see something like this and ... it's a disappointment. I think what's "commendable" is cross-platform development, breaking out of walled gardens to support everyone.

Eh. There are plenty of tools and programs that are windows only and that will never change. There will always be vendor lock in as long as vendors exist. I’d rather have teams start with high quality apps and branch out when it makes sense for them. Maybe it never will make sense for them and that’s okay!

As I said in my grand-child reply, I don't use almost any Windows-only tools on a daily basis.

As to strategy: If they want people to buy their app, and they're getting all of this great publicity, then "branching out" later will have missed an opportunity to market to Windows users. Heck, Windows users will likely be turned off by their heavy "Can a native Mac code editor really be that much better?" marketing message...

I know I won't be likely to try out their app ever. I mean, if I wanted to go with a well-supported, fast, and clean editor, I'd just use Sublime.

Nova seems to be specifically targeting the Mac-snob crowd as their main selling point, and I don't think that deserves the front page of HN.

Re: Nova 9

#106

Post by SixDouble5321 »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #79
nfadili wrote: post #22

Deal breaker for me (last time I checked it out) was the lack of a built in git diff. I don't need anything fancy, but I can't live in an editor without it. Does anybody know if this is planned or workable in later versions?

I know it's not what you asked for, but I used to use the one is VS Code exclusively. Now I use Sublime Merge 90% of the time and it's been a huge benefit to my workflow. I didn't expect it to win me over, but I instinctively reach for it now.

I can't recommend Sublime Merge enough. Many tools out there do the same job, but half as fast with way less style.

Re: Nova 9

#107

Post by SixDouble5321 »

eddwinpaz wrote: post #99

I don't know what to say. I use NVIM. And it would be hard for me to switch to any other editor.

Seems like you sorted out what to say, now just paste it into any thread that mentions IDEs.

I don't see what reason there is to be curmudgeonly about your editor. Try new ones, go back to old, write your own... but for heaven's sake don't assume you know everything.

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