France ends gas heaters subsidies • Hacker News Board

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by CalRobert » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

nevermindiguess wrote: post #6

rich_sasha wrote: post #2

The thing about Europe weaning itself off Russian hydrocarbons is that it was going to happen anyway, with all the green targets etc. It might as well happen a bit more quickly. Especially so in France, which already has massive carbon-free electricity sources.

I’m sure it’s fine with your developer salary. Go tell the old lady with a meager pension or the family with three kids.

This is why my developer salary is very heavily taxed and energy upgrades (insulation, airtightness, heat pump, etc) for the aforementioned people are subsidized.

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by ForgotIdAgain » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:07 AM UTC

Russia has food and energy, sure QoL will be greatly reduced but it will go through, what will happen in developed country if it can't get gas to produce fertilizer? At least America will get to sell gas and food to europe I guess.

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by throw_m239339 » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:08 AM UTC

ganzuul wrote: post #4

Paywalled.

https://archive.ph/dZQdu

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by edelans » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:08 AM UTC

heyyeah wrote: post #7

I'm working on a project for France to rollout virtual power plant flexibility with domestic electric heating. We get pressure to rapidly increase the rollout now. Let me know if you want to join us!

I'm curious : what is virtual power plant flexibility ?

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by masklinn » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:09 AM UTC

boobsbr wrote: post #5

masklinn wrote: post #3

Good news, better late than never. Just a shame this didn’t come 20-30 years back, when the country started working on migrating away from oil furnaces. While that was extremely successful it was mostly done by expanding nat gas municipal networks and replacing oil furnaces by gas-powered ones.

Interestingly, a lot of Belgian houses still use oil (mazout) furnaces.

Iirc france is still around 10% oil, despite the first rumours of their ban starting in the early aughts.

But that used to be a lot more common, these days it’s become rare outside of rather rural places for which a gas network is not economically viable. Basically as oil furnaces reached EOL, people would replace them with gas if they had a muni gas network (“gaz de ville”, literally city gas), because the country subsidised switching away from oil furnaces.

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by egao1980 » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:11 AM UTC

rosndo wrote: post #17

nevermindiguess wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sure it’s fine with your developer salary. Go tell the old lady with a meager pension or the family with three kids.

Old lady with a meager pension can still wear more clothes and ensure that her home is properly insulated. Same goes for the family with three kids. Indoor temperatures going down by a degree or two really is not a big deal.

Unfortunately lower indoor temperature leads to excess mortality as stated in UK report - https://www.ons.gov.uk/releases/excesswintermortalityinengla...

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by pauletienney » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:12 AM UTC

heyyeah wrote: post #7

I'm working on a project for France to rollout virtual power plant flexibility with domestic electric heating. We get pressure to rapidly increase the rollout now. Let me know if you want to join us!

Hi heyyeah. It sounds interesting. I am now in Bordeaux and looking for software job or freelance missions in energy/environement sectors. Can we talk? My email is on my profile.

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by hkt » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:15 AM UTC

heyyeah wrote: post #7

I'm working on a project for France to rollout virtual power plant flexibility with domestic electric heating. We get pressure to rapidly increase the rollout now. Let me know if you want to join us!

This sounds awesome but I'm in the UK - how are you for mostly remote work with the occasional week in office? (I'm a DevOps person if that makes any difference)

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by heyyeah » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:15 AM UTC

johnchristopher wrote: post #20

heyyeah wrote: post #7

I'm working on a project for France to rollout virtual power plant flexibility with domestic electric heating. We get pressure to rapidly increase the rollout now. Let me know if you want to join us!

It's a shot in the dark but... Erwan ?

https://tiko.fr (FR) https://tiko.energy/ (EN) we have our own branded product and we also white label with energy companies

Re: France ends gas heaters subsidies

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Post by VaxWithSex » Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 9:16 AM UTC

heyyeah wrote: post #7

I'm working on a project for France to rollout virtual power plant flexibility with domestic electric heating. We get pressure to rapidly increase the rollout now. Let me know if you want to join us!

You could also join energy & meteo systems, which I presume, powers this virtual power plant.