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Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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> Windows 3.1 Hot Dog Stand, Amiga Workbench, Atari ST GEM, and Mac Classic and Aqua Horrible? Were these not the cutting edge? Do we not hark back to these UIs with fondness for their simplicity and 'it just works'?

The original 1.x Amiga Workbench was IMHO just ugly even when it was current (I would know, I owned an Amiga); of course it was just the best they could do with the 4 colour palette they allocated to it. The general design was still good. The look of 2.x was fine. I never had a mac, but I think that classic mac is indeed ok and I do like Aqua. For me the prettiest GUI design is still classic NeXT and I would still us…

> For me the prettiest GUI design is still classic NeXT

Someone with taste!

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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> But in real life, skin pigmentation and other differences that have been attributed to the term "race" have an impact on a person's perception, whether or not they admit/realize it. I think, in the US, skin pigmentation has historically acted as a metonym for the social divide between European-Americans and African-Americans. But, it would be a mistake to take the metonym too literally – and people who are neither…

I grew up in Germany, born elsewhere, without giving too much personal information about myself. I now live in the US. The fact that the US has become more diversified and generally affords individuals more opportunities; community ties are not as strong or important as elsewhere; sprawling geography and population; all of these things create a different set of costs and benefits socially. When people in other countr…

> When people in other countries get more defensive or sensitive to an influx of foreigners is not an indication that racism doesn't exist or race doesn't play a part at all in how they view others

People can treat foreigners in a prejudiced way without believing that they belong to a "different race". That's still "racism" provided you define "racism" in broad terms to include prejudice and discrimination based on ethnicity/nationality/language/culture/etc – but once you've done that, the concept of "race" is no longer essential to the concept of "racism".

> Yet, look at how the plight of a white population in Ukraine is seen vs. that in Syria or Yemen or even Rwanda before that.

The US government officially considers Syrians to be "white". Syria's President has pale skin and blue eyes, and many other Syrians look like he does–other Syrians have darker eyes and skin, but then so do many Europeans (southern Europeans especially). If you had seen Bashar al-Assad walking the streets of London – he lived there from 1988 to 1994 – and you didn't know who he was, could you have known he wasn't European just by looking at him? I couldn't have. So your idea that Ukrainians are "white" but Syrians are "not white" seems to me rather questionable.

I think most uncompassionate responses to the Syrian civil war and refugee crisis, were not primarily motivated by the physical appearance of Syrians, but rather by their predominant religion. The same point applies to the Bosnian genocide, whose victims were Muslims of Slavic ancestry and language, physically largely indistinguishable from their Christian Serb murderers.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Does that work with File > Open with a stock Excel install? Does editing work seamlessly?

No, but that's not why you would move your data to sqlite. I was only responding to the question of whether Excel could read it, which it can.

He said open, not read. They're subtly different terms but the distinction is important.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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The hyphen prefixed arrays are very weird. It looks like YAML but behaves differently. Doesn’t help that YAML is also a superset of JSON too. I also don’t like space (char 32) used as a field delimiter because that opens up entire categories of bugs that are already a daily annoyance for shell scripting. I respect your thought processes but I can see this particular specification being more confusing than productive…

The hyphen prefixed arrays were an ingyism. I don't use those at all but since he wrote the grammar I didn't feel like it was particularly fair to bitch about him sneaking in a single feature he wanted. I use it basically like: { key1 value1 key2 [ value2a value2b value2c ] } i.e. treating JSONY as "JSON but with as much of the syntactical noise as possible optional" which is what I always wanted it to be. Plus becau…

I'm not going to criticize personal usage but for the point of accuracy the indention sensitive syntax of YAML is entirely optional. Like I said, it's a superset of JSON, which means the following is valid YMAL:

   { key1: value1, key2: [ value2a, value2b, value2c ] }
Granted that's still got a few additional control characters (comma and colon) but personally I think that aids readability because it wouldn't be clear to my what the intent of the parameters were in your example if you hadn't named them "key" and "value". But as I said, I'm not going to criticize personal usage.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Ironically Excels implementation of CSV is terrible. It’s constantly destroying data (eg large numeric and pseudo-numeric fields) not to mention the whole issue around any cell bringing with an equal symbol being converted into a function.

And some localizations of excel uses semi colon instead of comma! So no interoperability.

Haha. Wait to see when you receive a file made in a different language ( for example an excel file with formulas created on a japanese language computer).

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Yeah, but without preemptive multitasking, it's like putting lipstick on a pig.

Preemptive multitasking is overrated. (In particular, it seems to me that graphical applications may behave better when they cooperate. I think that a desktop OS should accommodate both kinds.)

I suppose we should do away with page tables and virtual memory then as well.

Maybe you weren't around to witness the instability of cooperative multitasking under both classic MacOS and Windows 3.1/95, or you've forgotten.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

#167

It's beautiful. Don't change a thing. Folks who enjoy this may also like NsCDE: https://github.com/NsCDE/NsCDE

Or the real one: https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/

I've been a little disappointed that nobody seems to be doing a CDE-as-first-class-citizen distribution. Considering how many offerings there are that's "Ubuntu or Debian, but we changed the default desktop environment", it seems an obvious missing space.
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