> Lin remains at large.
Bad -- maybe cover of the investigation got blown?
5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
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Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
FBI COINTELPRO [0] and CIA Operation CHAOS [1] did way more than just sending some harassing mail to MLK [2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_CHAOS [2] https://openyls.law.yale.edu/bitstream/handle/20.500.13051/7...
It's important to remember that this was in the past. The FBI, as well as every other three-letter-agency, are the good guys now, and they are totally ashamed of doing those things. They're definitely not doing anything like that anymore!
If they were they wouldn't be able to cover it up.
I mean, we know when they do it - nearly every domestic terrorist bombing/kidnapping attempt ends up being a group of one guy and 4 FBI informers as soon as the one guy asks how to make a bomb on Facebook.
Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
that is true, but that was more than fifty years ago..
That means the people in charge now were trained by the people doing that stuff 50 years ago
Some of the people in charge today were also in power 50 years ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Grassley
I have no idea if Chuck Grassley had anything to do with that, but my point is that if the same people in Congress then are still in Congress today, you can't claim a clean break from the past due to the passage of time.
Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's important to remember that this was in the past. The FBI, as well as every other three-letter-agency, are the good guys now, and they are totally ashamed of doing those things. They're definitely not doing anything like that anymore!
it always is a comfort to know that the alphabet boys did bad things in the 1950's, 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, 2000's but are actually totally chill now
Although leftists already seem to think the CIA started the Iraq War, when they were against it and Cheney/Rumsfeld had to invent ways to get all the intelligence agencies out of the picture so they could make something up in peace.
Similarly, they didn't overthrow Bolivia recently, but people think Elon did it personally to get cheaper lithium because he joked about it on Twitter once.
Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
that is true, but that was more than fifty years ago..
> Anonymous discovered that HBGary was conspiring with a law/lobbying firm known as Hunton and Williams to launch a highly sophisticated campaign to subvert and sabotage the enemies of their clients. In some cases these plans involved illegal actions. The targets were journalists, labor unions, and political opponents. > One client was Bank of America, who hired Hunton and Williams to launch a campaign against Wikile…
This implies Palantir has "technology", which I'm sure they would like you to think, but what they actually do is sell SQL queries as a service.
Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
#156Sometimes I think this sounds conspiratorial, and surely isn't happening. Who has the time or money to pay 5 people to just go around harassing and stalking people for political gain only? Then I remember the story of the lady in East Germany who, after it fell, managed to get the Stasi records that finally proved that yes, they had been stalking her, harassing her, and spying on her. They would do things like wait u…
Same with Ernest Hemingway, remembered for his paranoia later in life, specifically about the US government watching him. Going to doctors for this, to no avail. Turns out the FBI was following him, as detailed in recently classified documents (2010s). My synopsis is that they enabled his predisposition for depression and paranoia. But the initial observation of being watched by the government was not inaccurate.
It's much more difficult these days due to Baumol's cost disease. You have to pay the benefits for all those stalkers.
Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
#157Sometimes I think this sounds conspiratorial, and surely isn't happening. Who has the time or money to pay 5 people to just go around harassing and stalking people for political gain only? Then I remember the story of the lady in East Germany who, after it fell, managed to get the Stasi records that finally proved that yes, they had been stalking her, harassing her, and spying on her. They would do things like wait u…
Have you heard of this guy called Snowden? Or maybe Aaron Swartz. Govts have been harassing them too. One guy even took his life
Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
#158CCP is the biggest threat to democracies around the world. Russia's stupid mistake now slowed down the confrontation.
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Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Chinese "Spies" are not what you think of as Spies. They are Chinese foreign college students in Australia who report back to China if any of their classmates do something that the Chinese government would not approve of. They also steal information when they can and just basically tow the party line while overseas. They all do it because the government is paying for their education and they are proven loyal to C…
OK, but source? Australian population in 2016 born in China was ~500k. If you assume that the majority of this was happening within that population, if it's 50k "informants", that would mean it's 1 in every 10 people. If you further limited it to students, it would be even more than that. If this were actually known to be happening at such high frequency, I would expect that Australia would know about it & do somethi…
Absolutely no source. Remember that Fox news has minority viewership in US but in Australia it controls 90% of the news (Murdoch is from Australia).
Most of the news, almost all the time are sensationalist nonsense like this. 10 years ago it was complaining about the Lebanese then the vietnamese and then finally its the turn of Chinese.
If you want to experience the US 60's style racism go to Australia. Imagine a place in US named like this https://goo.gl/maps/aoUdGWvFmGcmV7f29
Re: 5 Charged with Stalking, Harassing, Spying on US Residents for PRC Secret Police
#160No other country has managed to accomplish what CCP has in its coordinated campaign across the globe. Covert: Inflitrate US Congress for potential blackmail - https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2df... Infitration of US Higher Ed & Supression - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/16/how-china... Siphon off entire US Government personnel information, Probably to match it against Grindr…
Infiltration is barely an accomplishment. What material things has China done to any other country outside of the ones it has border disputes with, ever? The US has obviously accomplished much more, toppling the governments of dozens of countries, and always credibly threatening and working towards doing it to two or three. The "Overt" campaign you cite against "US Newspapers" consists of buying $19 million of advert…
China claims hurt feelings and starts trade retaliations based on wildly false statements anytime another country thinks anything negative about them. They've been doing it to Australia for a few years now over a suggestion their covid policy wasn't the best.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/18/australia-china-trade-disput...