No built-in support for C/C++ (or even Rust).
clion still the best for rust
Nova 9
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Re: Nova 9
#72Nova is absolutely gorgeous. I'm so done with Electron apps, even ones "done well". There's a lot to be said for fast, native apps that look and feel like they belong on the platform you're running them on. That said, Nova's Python support wasn't in the ballpark of VS Code's. But testing it for a while soured me on VS Code, and I ended up switching back to Emacs (which has outstanding Python support via LSP these day…
you can have an interactive debugger for python in Emacs with break points and everything?
Re: Nova 9
#73Docker on mac just...sucks. So I don't develop on mac. Remote debugging sucks, so I don't like to setup a pure remote env for development.
Maybe I just have Linux-colored lenses but I am not sure I see this product having huge growth potential given it's intentionally small target audience.
Re: Nova 9
#74I really want to love Nova, I was a Coda die-hard for many years, but there's been one thing holding me back: the lack of "sticky tab stops", in VSCode parlance, or what was called Atomic Soft Tabs in Atom. (The world may have forced me to capitulate to using spaces; but in my local editor, it's all tabs, all the time.)
Re: Nova 9
#75Docker on mac just...sucks. So I don't develop on mac. Remote debugging sucks, so I don't like to setup a pure remote env for development. Maybe I just have Linux-colored lenses but I am not sure I see this product having huge growth potential given it's intentionally small target audience.
You should try Rancher Desktop instead of Docker Desktop.
Re: Nova 9
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand that, and I've been buying their software for at least 10+ years, starting with CandyBar. My point is, for the effort it requires, I don't see it paying off. I would bet money that Nova will be discontinued in less than 5 years, while VS Code will not.
It seems pretty likely they will either continue to develop Nova, or replace it with a newer app, indefinitely. They’ve been consistently shipping a code editor (Coda until 2020, now replaced with Nova) since 2007. Apart from uncharacteristically losing interest, I think the only reason they’d stop developing Nova or some spiritual successor is becoming unsustainable as a business. Fortunately for Panic, there are st…
Coda was quite dead before relaunch as Nova. Even if not outright discontinued, if Nova got to the stage Coda 3 was, that would not be great.
Re: Nova 9
#77I'm happy to see them try, but rationally, I just don't understand why Panic is even trying. The trade-offs are just too steep. They won't ever have the ecosystem of open-source, Electron-based editors. And whatever you gain from being mac-native is just not enough of a benefit for almost all development.
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Re: Nova 9
#78This certainly looks nice. But the courses I teach require students to use VS Code with Python and Java, which means I have to use it, too. It doesn't work well with PyTest and while it's pretty good with JUnit, dealing with external libraries like JavaFX completely flummoxed a lot of the students. Sometimes good enough is good enough.
Re: Nova 9
#79Deal breaker for me (last time I checked it out) was the lack of a built in git diff. I don't need anything fancy, but I can't live in an editor without it. Does anybody know if this is planned or workable in later versions?
I know it's not what you asked for, but I used to use the one is VS Code exclusively. Now I use Sublime Merge 90% of the time and it's been a huge benefit to my workflow. I didn't expect it to win me over, but I instinctively reach for it now.
Re: Nova 9
#80I'm happy to see them try, but rationally, I just don't understand why Panic is even trying. The trade-offs are just too steep. They won't ever have the ecosystem of open-source, Electron-based editors. And whatever you gain from being mac-native is just not enough of a benefit for almost all development.
IMHO they should pivot it into a beautiful native or electron UI for neovim. Rebuilding all the LSP, task, etc. stuff in a bespoke editor is clearly a ton of work and maybe not paying off in the long run. Get all that stuff for free from neovim. Make a plugin that starts users off in a more familiar mode-less editing experience so the switch isn't noticeable.
You might be interested in Onivim then (https://onivim.io/)
Edit: Ah it seems they actually ran out of money. I'd assume the project is deprecated now as I don't see any updates in the recent past.
https://github.com/onivim/oni2/issues/3811#issuecomment-9103...