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Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by blub »

dustinmoris wrote: post #34
involans wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to eat during the flight, or you can delay eating to be out of phase. I've done that and so far it's been effective over a number of transatlantic flights.

> You don't have to eat during the flight In theory you don't have to do anything mate. Just lie down in a coffin at home, shut the door and I bet you you won't catch COVID or any other mild respiratory illness. If to you the meaning of life is to get born, not catch COVID under any ridiculous circumstances and then die then this is a dead sure way of achieving your dreams! I rather live life, take risks, feel my hea…

Airline food is indeed living the life while feeling the thrill of being close to other human beans.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by netsharc »

brigandish wrote: post #59
WA wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The conspiracy theorists always claimed that there is some kind of master plan to enslave the human race by the elite and that masks and whatnot are just the beginning. How does a minority protest stop the evil masterplan? This makes no sense at all. Either there is a master plan and you have to have 90% of the people on the street opposing this, or there was no master plan from the get go. The conspiracy theory crum…

> How does a minority protest stop the evil masterplan? This makes no sense at all. Either there is a master plan and you have to have 90% of the people on the street opposing this, or there was no master plan from the get go. Why can there not be a master plan that is difficult to implement where there is resistance? Why can the plan not have several stages and levels of implementation? Why can it not be that at dif…

I find the idea that some elite group are out there to take over the world makes even less sense. For what end? The elite already rule the world with a compliant society, who are all working on their "wage-slavery", with their aspirations of buying that new handbag or sportscar or graphics card because they think bragging about it on social media will fulfill them... But noo, there must be an insidious plot to make us all unhappy North Korean-esque slaves that start with mask mandates and "forced" vaccinations, because that way the elite will... what? What will they gain?

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by djbebs »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

The ones that have consistently been proven right about government overreach?

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by aeternum »

andybak wrote: post #35
tomerv wrote: post #14

Shame, I actually liked the idea of mandatory masks on public transportation. I always get sick on flights (pre-COVID; I haven't flown since COVID started) and it's really annoying to have a runny nose while on vacation. I'm sure I catch it in the airport or on the plane, because it always starts 1-2 after the flight.

I had a very expensive holiday mostly ruined because someone arrived at a 1 to 1 meeting with me the week before and announced 5 minutes in: "sorry - i've got a cold at the moment". I now always phone ahead if I've got sniffles and ask permission. There should be better ettiquette around things like this.

I'd rather see the ettiquette around coughing in public confined spaces. In some cultures it is frowned upon and happens very rarely.

In western culture it seems like the agreement is that coughs are completely uncontrollable and are acceptable anywhere.

Maybe those that can't control their coughs should wear masks but those healthy enough to suppress coughs do not have to.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by usedtoprog »

freitasm wrote: post #85

Until people go on a summer holiday this season and fall ill. When people start dying they might ask themselves "why?" and realise that the virus is not actually gone. Just wishful thinking.

Key takeaway is "mask requirement dropped". Everyone should feel free to protect themselves. Just don't mandate that other people do things to protect you.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by usedtoprog »

tomgp wrote: post #46
dustinmoris wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expect my family and friends to help me out. I don't expect the entire world around me to dance to my tune because of a fear I hold. When I was 10 years old nobody stopped smoking around me in indoor places, so now the same people who smoked all their life and ate themselves obese are afraid of my fresh super healthy fit breath? Sorry, not my problem and I honestly couldn't care less. On my list of priorities that…

Wow! We're talking about wearing a face mask for a short amount of time in very specific situations here, a tiny inconvenience which has proven benefits for a broad swathe of the population (not just the old). No one's asking you to lock yourself at home and not see friends and family. Wearing a mask on a plane is going to reduce the chances of those more stringent measures being put back on the table. Also, not ever…

The absence of proven benefits is the issue. It is unscientific to mandate behaviour without proven benefit.

The issue for me, and I'm reading it in a lot of these comments is that there is no endgame. The times I've been asked "where is your mask?" I've never had an empirical answer to "when does it stop?"

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by floor2 »

usedtoprog wrote: post #86
freitasm wrote: post #85

Until people go on a summer holiday this season and fall ill. When people start dying they might ask themselves "why?" and realise that the virus is not actually gone. Just wishful thinking.

Key takeaway is "mask requirement dropped". Everyone should feel free to protect themselves. Just don't mandate that other people do things to protect you.

So roughly, everyone should wear bullet proof vests and gas masks, because it's unreasonable to mandate that people not shoot guns into the air or spray mace whenever they want.

We have mandates for how wiring and plumbing need to work in private homes, apartments, offices, etc to maintain safety. We have mandates for how fast cars can drive, which lanes they can use, how they need to signal turns to maintain safety. We have mandates for what chemicals farmers can spray on fields and what chemicals factories can dump into sewers.

The mask mandate is so utterly trivial compared to everything else in our lives. The airplane also makes you wear a seatbelt, is that a violation of your rights?

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by Hulitio »

dustinmoris wrote: post #34
involans wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to eat during the flight, or you can delay eating to be out of phase. I've done that and so far it's been effective over a number of transatlantic flights.

> You don't have to eat during the flight In theory you don't have to do anything mate. Just lie down in a coffin at home, shut the door and I bet you you won't catch COVID or any other mild respiratory illness. If to you the meaning of life is to get born, not catch COVID under any ridiculous circumstances and then die then this is a dead sure way of achieving your dreams! I rather live life, take risks, feel my hea…

COVID is still very very new.

There was and still are good reasons to be careful.

It would have been just stupid to get COVID out of yolo.

Now doctors have much more experience with it, vaccines exists.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by dreaminvm »

freitasm wrote: post #85

Until people go on a summer holiday this season and fall ill. When people start dying they might ask themselves "why?" and realise that the virus is not actually gone. Just wishful thinking.

If not now, then when?

UK studies show IFR for COVID for those vaccinated/immunized is now lower than seasonal flu [1]. We never wore masks during the flu and I am not sure why anyone would advocate this continuing. Moreover if someone wants to wear a mask, nothing stops them from doing that, but don't force it on everyone ages 2 and up.

https://www.ft.com/content/e26c93a0-90e7-4dec-a796-3e25e94bc... [1]

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