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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by mchusma »

wes-k wrote: post #871
jlokier wrote: post #794

I'm surprised at the number of commenters who think permanent DST is favourable to night owls and bad for morning people. I think it's night owls and delayed-cycle teenagers attending school who will suffer most under permanent DST. In the Winter, permanent DST means everyone has to get up an hour earlier for work or school's clock time, relative to the sun which regulates their body rhythm. Someone pointed out virtu…

This isn’t a DST issue. Start school later.

I agree. Changing times on everyone was always silly. If a group of people want to change the time they go to school or work, they should just do that.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by Miner49er »

scotuswroteus wrote: post #104
jp57 wrote: post #77

I mentioned something similar in a comment last year, but I think there's going to be a lot of moaning about late sunrises in US in December. Roughly 8:15-8:20 am around the solstice in New York, DC, Chicago, and even Austin. Not til nearly 9am in Seattle. The sun won't rise before 8am in NYC for basically all of December and January. I'd even be willing to guess that the amount of moaning might be equal to what we g…

Enough from these self centered early risers. They go to bed at 7 PM. They live in homes full of "live, laugh, love" decorations. They tuck in their shirts. Enough.

I'm not a morning person, because the sun isn't up. This will make it even worse. This is bad for night owls.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by Miner49er »

paxys wrote: post #67
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #26

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

The amount of sunlight stays the same. The question is whether you want more of it in the morning or the evening, and there isn't a "correct" answer there. Going by general public sentiment I'm willing to bet it's more towards the latter though.

That doesn't mean it optimizes for what is actually healthy though. Most American's clearly want to eat unhealthy, based on our obesity rate. Doesn't mean it's what is healthiest though.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by Miner49er »

mrfusion wrote: post #28
Ericson2314 wrote: post #20

Hot take: permenant daylight time not permanent standard time because nightowls are more common than they used to be.

I prefer having more daylight in the evening. I never really understood the opposite argument.

It's healthier. On the surface I prefer sleeping less and not working out, but it effects my health poorly.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by tomcatfish »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #174

Wait, it's not April 1. Suddenly I love this adminsitration [1] > Sunshine Protection Act of 2021 Yes. Save the sun, save the lights, save everything. [1]: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recency_bias

It's not "Sunshine Protection" to make people feel good, those words are just likely to be recognized as synonyms for "Daylight Savings".

(I actually didn't catch this on my own either)

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by tomcatfish »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #2

>Sunshine Protection Act Jesus, does everything need to be hyperbolic virtue signaling. Won't someone please think of the children!

They're synonyms for "Daylight Savings". Slow down before accusing people making an amusing pun.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by kalium-xyz »

gruez wrote: post #662
kalium-xyz wrote: post #655

Man I wish we could get rid of timezones. I know its psychologically impossible for humans to adapt to it but timezones really haven't made sense since clocks became a thing.

retort: https://qntm.org/abolish

This person has clearly never worked remote for an Australian company from western Europe. I've had quite a lot of quite bad misconceptions and missed meetings. Not only was it utter hell and confusion WITH TIMEZONES it ended up making for conversations / scenarios worse if not similar to what described here. Australia doesn't even share the same notion of when a week starts as we do.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by eric_cc »

jlokier wrote: post #794

I'm surprised at the number of commenters who think permanent DST is favourable to night owls and bad for morning people. I think it's night owls and delayed-cycle teenagers attending school who will suffer most under permanent DST. In the Winter, permanent DST means everyone has to get up an hour earlier for work or school's clock time, relative to the sun which regulates their body rhythm. Someone pointed out virtu…

Breaking out the "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" for daylight savings time?

I think this is a very dramatic hypothesis you've presented here. If an individual or family is inconvenienced by this, adapt!

Places that already do not change for DST are doing just fine. e.g. Arizona

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by hrpnk »

watwut wrote: post #663
hinkley wrote: post #214

I think I can say this on behalf of most developers who have ever had to fix DST errors in their code: Thank fucking god. I am shocked that none of our unit tests failed on Monday. One of the first code reviews I did here I pointed out that his tests were going to break in a few months when DST kicked in because his tests asserted that there was a 24 hour gap between two calculations. He responded this code was tempo…

It just became more complicated.

Especially if it will differ on state level as states do not have to follow the guidance and can opt-out.
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