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Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by tuwtuwtuwtuw »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

According to my coworker, US is now planning a false flag nuclear strike in Ukraine. I asked for a source and he linked some random youtuber who claimed this without any source except "common sense".

So I'm guessing option 2.

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Post by bigDinosaur »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

Where I live one is still required to present what amounts to an internal passport to do pretty much anything, despite not having any medical justification. Certainly some things have been normalised which never should have been normalised.

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Post by culopatin »

hsshjshshs wrote: post #6
culopatin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reality I all a bit of a theatre. If you believe in the mask effectiveness, you’ll get it when everyone takes their mask off at the same time to eat every time they hand off something. Almost no one wears an n95 for long flights and most people will wear the mask as poorly as they can anyway. Edit: just to clarify, I don’t have anything against anyone who believes in the mask effectiveness and wants to wear it. Bu…

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It would be more like telling everyone to drive only at lunch and tea time because some people drink and drive. Look, I don’t get offended by people who wear masks or anything like that. But I got covid from a plane while wearing a mask, and I haven’t seen a peer reviewed paper that says the blue ones we use everywhere are worth anything. That in addition to the behaviors of 80% of the mask wearers on a plane… might as well remove the fake sense of security and let me have a pleasant 9h flight without my ears feeling like they are about to fall off.

I’m vaccinated, I’ll be tested by the time I get on the plane, so will everyone else (unless they fake a test, which is very easy), so I think my risk is the same risk I had of getting the flu before the pandemic.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by tomerv »

Shame, I actually liked the idea of mandatory masks on public transportation. I always get sick on flights (pre-COVID; I haven't flown since COVID started) and it's really annoying to have a runny nose while on vacation. I'm sure I catch it in the airport or on the plane, because it always starts 1-2 after the flight.

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Post by ImaCake »

bigDinosaur wrote: post #12
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

Where I live one is still required to present what amounts to an internal passport to do pretty much anything, despite not having any medical justification. Certainly some things have been normalised which never should have been normalised.

Don’t these kind of things happen whenever a war or pandemic happens? Showing your papers was important during WWI and WWII and I am aware of plenty of quarantines and mask mandates associated with previous cholera/TB/flu pandemics.

Sure, I agree it sets a dangerous precedent, but we have been setting those kind of precedents for like 150 years. In that time we’ve had totalitarian states and liberal democracies.

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Post by hughrr »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

I know one of those guys.

I don't even pretend to know exactly what thoughts are occurring in his head but form the outside he appears to hold several logically inconsistent ideas at the same time and is desperately trying to find a causal relationship between them.

As for forgetting, they never forget. More noise and ideas are added to the same pool of thought and consistency is never resolved. I suspect you either grow out of it in some way or go insane.

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Post by PaulKeeble »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

There were quite a few protests in the UK last year against the lockdowns, despite the fact there was no lockdown at the time or planned (nor did it happen) in the future. Quite a few cults seem to go past their doomsday date and simply choose another into the future. They just carry on as if the lack of the event never happened.

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Post by ImaCake »

breakfastduck wrote: post #7
Hulitio wrote: post #2

Just be aware that it might mean for you that you catch COVID and will be sick in your holiday. I got COVID from one event 3 weeks ago and it threw my plans around. It wasn't that big of an issue as I have a booster but I planed to visit a close friend who does cancer treatment and I was quite happy that he had no time for a short visit as I learned about my COVID invection two days later and I don't want to put him…

Absolute nonsense.

Non-substantive comments aren’t really welcome here. If you disagree with someone, explain why. HN respects a well worded argument.

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Post by bluescrn »

hsshjshshs wrote: post #6
culopatin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reality I all a bit of a theatre. If you believe in the mask effectiveness, you’ll get it when everyone takes their mask off at the same time to eat every time they hand off something. Almost no one wears an n95 for long flights and most people will wear the mask as poorly as they can anyway. Edit: just to clarify, I don’t have anything against anyone who believes in the mask effectiveness and wants to wear it. Bu…

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> Ps: every single person boarding a plane for non urgent reasons is an idiot. Period.

12 months ago I'd have agreed. But we're past the 2 year mark now. We have the jabs, we have better treatments, we have ubiquitous testing, and omicron seems milder.

At some point life needs to go on. Choose your own risks based upon your individual situation.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by ImaCake »

I think the timing is right for this. Or at least it is getting close to the right time. Case Fatality Rate in heavily vaxxed populations is getting below seasonal influenza so the burden on society just isn’t as high as it was. The threat model has completely changed.
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