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Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by tyingq »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #6

It's terrible, I love it. I also love that all the setup scripts are badly-written Perl scripts, and even some custom C code just to change the mixer rather than use alsactl. This is 1000% something I would have made years ago. edit Holy moly, the configs are CSV files.... that encode JSON?! And hey, Slack 15 is out! If they do a new release they won't need to release again for another 6 years!

"badly-written Perl scripts"

They do appear to be badly written on purpose, like this "hotdog-aboutDrives.pl" one:

https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/hotdog-ab...

The entire script is this:

  #!/usr/bin/perl
  $str = `df`;
  print $str;

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by h0l0cube »

snek_case wrote: post #10
JasonFruit wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you're missing some compassion.

In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. I wish his terrible fate could have been avoided, but having been very close for many years to a schizophrenic person, I can tell you that they will only get treatment if they want to. You can't force them. You can try to be there and help them…

> In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness.

I don't think mental illness really changes whether or not you have a good heart. I've met many people dealing with mental illness who are gracious and compassionate to all people no matter their race. Though it's possible his views might have been informed by his upbringing or his environment. Perhaps mental illness impairs self-reform or the capability for better judgement, but it can't be said that the mental illness, in and of itself, was the fault of mental illness.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by zozbot234 »

h0l0cube wrote: post #22
snek_case wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. I wish his terrible fate could have been avoided, but having been very close for many years to a schizophrenic person, I can tell you that they will only get treatment if they want to. You can't force them. You can try to be there and help them…

> In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. I don't think mental illness really changes whether or not you have a good heart. I've met many people dealing with mental illness who are gracious and compassionate to all people no matter their race. Though it's possible his views might have been informed by his upbringing or his environment. Perhaps mental…

Everything I've seen about Terry Davis suggests that he was consistently gracious and compassionate to pretty much anyone, other than perhaps those pesky glow-in-the-dark folks...

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by moltke »

ForOldHack wrote: post #17
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #6

It's terrible, I love it. I also love that all the setup scripts are badly-written Perl scripts, and even some custom C code just to change the mixer rather than use alsactl. This is 1000% something I would have made years ago. edit Holy moly, the configs are CSV files.... that encode JSON?! And hey, Slack 15 is out! If they do a new release they won't need to release again for another 6 years!

"badly-written Perl scripts..." You are much too kind to the monkeys who put this together. The config is nice, but Chicago? Chicago font? I thought that was buried deep, long ago.

Am I weird for liking Chicago?

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by mbg721 »

moltke wrote: post #24
ForOldHack wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"badly-written Perl scripts..." You are much too kind to the monkeys who put this together. The config is nice, but Chicago? Chicago font? I thought that was buried deep, long ago.

Am I weird for liking Chicago?

Do you enjoy casserole that calls itself pizza, and roast beef sub-sandwiches that demand dipping?

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by moltke »

mbg721 wrote: post #25
moltke wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I weird for liking Chicago?

Do you enjoy casserole that calls itself pizza, and roast beef sub-sandwiches that demand dipping?

No. I've never really liked anything about Chicago the city (although I have some fond memories living in a nearby suburb for a few years as a child.) I don't like the food, I don't like the politics etc.

I do like the font though. It's a bit like the Plan9 font, it just feels comfortable.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by toast0 »

freedomben wrote: post #15
cheaprentalyeti wrote: post #14

If it doesn't have System D I may have to check it out.

Based on the design goals, I would guess that they intentionally want a PID 1 that doesn't properly handle and pass signals to child processes :-D

I can't tell if that means probably systemd or not.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by Alan_Dillman »

zozbot234 wrote: post #12
snek_case wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. I wish his terrible fate could have been avoided, but having been very close for many years to a schizophrenic person, I can tell you that they will only get treatment if they want to. You can't force them. You can try to be there and help them…

> Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. If so, he shares that trait with plenty of people in the US, who increasingly view "racial blindness" as untenable. Of course it's not their fault either: "noticing" race is simply a very successful, self-replicating memetic parasite which can leverage the likes of Twitter or 4chan equally as platforms for its spread.

Its an absolutely bonkers aspect of US society.

Its not that one needs to be blind to "race", and who could be blind to differences in skin colour? Its that Americans seem to be taught that it is so very important, and that instead of applying situational relevancy, they default to cultural relevancy.

So race and skin colour gets mentioned all the time, even by people who aren't bigoted. This can be seen in their news broadcasts, where they will find or make premise for mentioning brown people's ancestry, even when it isn't truly relevant.

Kid rescues puppy from sewer drain? Gotta mention that he's African American. Never mind that there he is on camera, and anyone can see, and shouldn't care. And thus morality is tied to visual appearance.

In that sense, US society is like the TempleOS guy, who, possibly not even due to his mental illness, needed to squeeze references to his faith into every digital corner.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

#30

Post by snek_case »

h0l0cube wrote: post #22
snek_case wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. I wish his terrible fate could have been avoided, but having been very close for many years to a schizophrenic person, I can tell you that they will only get treatment if they want to. You can't force them. You can try to be there and help them…

> In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. I don't think mental illness really changes whether or not you have a good heart. I've met many people dealing with mental illness who are gracious and compassionate to all people no matter their race. Though it's possible his views might have been informed by his upbringing or his environment. Perhaps mental…

My own experience has been that, at least in the case of severe mental illness, even well-meaning people can hurt others a lot, without meaning to.
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