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Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by nknight »

krobertson wrote: post #116
cookiecaper wrote: post #30

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Since Bitbucket is based on DVCSes, you won't actually lose any of your code even if they do go under, so it's probably a better question if you trust them with your issue tracking than with your code.

Sure, its DVCS, but if they go away, where will you host it now? You are choosing to use Bitbucket for specific reasons. If they shut down because Atlassian is burning money and wants to trim the bottom line, then you now need to find something else to fill those specific needs again. You don't lose any code, but you now need to figure something else out. And if you were relying on "free unlimited private repositorie…

> where will you host it now?

On any available machine with some free space and an SSH daemon?

You talk about "figuring something else out" like it's some sort of big project. I don't understand that at all. There's no really effective lock-in here, users can take their repos and go anywhere or nowhere with negligible effort. They could even easily maintain a full copy of their repos on some backup machine at all times while using bitbucket or github.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by damncabbage »

3pt14159 wrote: post #137
bobbywilson0 wrote: post #82

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I have a similar sentiment. It doesn't feel right to pay for a private repo that you don't use any of the collaborative features. I wonder if it makes sense for github to have a 'lite' repo that is just straight up storage, no extra features. This would be valuable to me because even though I can set up a bitbucket account and get the free private repos, I just like having everything in one place. I feel like they co…

Why not just use Dropbox + Git? That's what I do.

Please be aware of the dangers when you do this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3024460

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by lyddonb »

farkas wrote: post #29
ergo14 wrote: post #22

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It's a power grab, and we benefit from it. There is no need for any DVCS to "win". Now you can use whatever you want without restrictions, why force others to use what you use?

(disclaimer - I'm the CEO of Atlassian) Developers are religious. Whether it is vi vs emacs, or IDEA vs Eclipse or Mac vs Linux. In September we had a huge debate internally (hundreds of comments long) on functional vs non-functional programming. We know that no-one wins in these religious debates. We've found that developers are equally religious regarding their DVCS. Most frequently it is whatever DVCS you started…

My company is currently debating between Github and Bitbucket. And the funny thing is git vs hg wasn't really an issue. We've decided that either is so much better than svn that we'd take either.

We have 2 large road blocks for Bitbucket. First is a real nice review system with inline comments during a pull request. Is this coming soon? It's an absolute deal breaker for us.

Also the performance/usability seems to be lacking compared to Github. I hope that changes. Although we also use JiraStudio and it's performance is dreadful. And the usability is quite frustrating. So the Atlassian track record is a little worrying for us.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by latch »

shazow wrote: post #56
ashleyw wrote: post #32

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Any semi-serious developer is going to use up the 5 private repos really quickly. 20 repos ($22/mo) is easily achievable for anyone who likes side-projects, and after that, larger plans are only "available on request". I wouldn't expect GitHub to compete directly with BitBucket's pricing, but doubling the amount of private repos allowed wouldn't hurt.

Many serious developers opt to keep as much of their source open as they can. It's not uncommon to find dozens of public side projects in the repository list of Github users. Occasionally someone will stumble on something interesting and collaborators will sprout. This is far less common on Bitbucket. Github's pricing policy seems to strongly encourage community and collaboration, and it works wonders.

Seriously. I always find it funny when people make generalizations like "Any serious developer would..." only to be 100% wrong (and thus proving that they aren't serious developers).

I used to think like your parent. Then I got over myself and just push everything to a a public github repo. So what if most of my project have no watchers and no forks. It can't hurt anything (except maybe my ego?). Once I did the transition with one of my bigger projects, I've nerver looked back.

Private repositories are for "serious" companies. Public repository are for "serious" developers.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by jc123 »

sandGorgon wrote: post #41
eropple wrote: post #25

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Because Git isn't what attracts most people to GitHub. It's the sheer fact that GitHub is frickin' HUGE and has lots of people who will show up, fork your project, and send you a pull request. I love Bitbucket, but honestly if GitHub added Mercurial support I would probably move all the way to GitHub because of the size of the community. This sums up my feelings exactly. I'm emphatically not a fan of the Github guys…

A lot of people/companies I know were using Assembla and Beanstalk. I wonder how big a threat this is to them, rather than Github . I notice that Bitbucket hasnt integrated Issues tracker with git. Bitbucket's bug tracking was IMHO much superior to github. Plus Bitbucket doesnt format the README markdown as nicely as Github. EDIT: I notice that I was mistaken. you need to enable bug tracking from the admin tab.

Partially agree about the threat. This news generates a lot of marketing that could drive new users to Bitbucket instead of Assembla and Beanstalk. But for existing users (I've been using Assembla for a while for private repos) there is probably a lot less reason to switch over.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by famousactress »

loganlinn wrote: post #123
grandalf wrote: post #54

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we'll see how GH responds in the face of competition like this. Now I no longer need to go beyond the $7/month github plan. I could see GH creating an "unlimited" account for $20/month that allows up to 3mb of files and unlimited repos.

I think an appropriate GH response would be to make a few/all personal (aka 0 collaborators) private repos free.

This is a _stellar_ idea.

I just wonder if there's a bit of a culture-jam here. It'd tempt you to not open up projects as freely, which seems at odds with the ideals of the GH camp.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by cmelbye »

zemanel wrote: post #140

Atlassian (which recently acquired Bitbucket) is well known forJira/Confluence. Could it be that if they might use Bitbucket as an entry point to their products? Perhaps with more integration.

It seems as if they've already released a fairly simple plugin to integrate Bitbucket with JIRA, which is nice. I'd personally like to see deeper integration between Bitbucket and Atlassian products like Crucible, JIRA, Confluence, etc.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by sandGorgon »

rickette wrote: post #105
sandGorgon wrote: post #63

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Yes please - small things like the branches drop down are not very intuitive. I think the competitive advantage for Bitbucket will come from super-enhancing features like the issue tracker. Today, I still have to run Redmine inspite of having Github issues. Give me an industrial quality issue tracker (hooks, assignee features, charting, roles and permissions). Basically just pull Bugzilla into Bitbucket. Now, that wo…

Really? Bugzilla? Talking about bad user interfaces. Anyway I don't see the BitBucket guys integrating Bugzilla anytime soon since they're part of Atlassian now which markets the Jira issue tracker.

Nope - I'm not really talking about Bugzilla or Jira from a UI point of view, but more of a functionality angle. That's the thing - the UI for issue tracking, on both Github and Bitbucket, is great. No functionality however.

TL;DR : will pay for issues

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by [deleted] »

famousactress wrote: post #146
loganlinn wrote: post #123

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I think an appropriate GH response would be to make a few/all personal (aka 0 collaborators) private repos free.

This is a _stellar_ idea. I just wonder if there's a bit of a culture-jam here. It'd tempt you to not open up projects as freely, which seems at odds with the ideals of the GH camp.

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