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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by beezle »

aqme28 wrote: post #682
captainmuon wrote: post #450

This is ridiculous. Why don't they make the regular time permanent? And if people want to have more light in the evening, then they just leave work earlier. Surely that is easier than permanent daylight savings time. I know people will say it's too hard to change habits and (clock) work hours, but with permanent DST you will have to change that anyway, when people realize how dark winter mornings will be. I predict a…

> I predict a lot of people will want to move school start to a later hour then. I'm a proponent of this regardless. Forcing teenagers to be awake at 6AM is not helpful.

But but... giving little Johnny and Sally time to play after school is one of the reasons given for making DST the be all end all of time.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by gpvos »

oppositelock wrote: post #337

Bah! Those of us who are morning people would prefer to ban daylight savings time and stay on standard time. Pretty soon, we'll have the war of the big-endians and little-endians like in Gulliver's Travels.

As an evening person, I want standard time. I can stay up in the evening anyway, I don't need sunlight for that. But in order to get up in the morning and be on time at work, sunlight is very helpful.

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Post by kurthr »

capital_guy wrote: post #679

I am extremely surprised at all the people who are against this, saying that "Making DST permanent forces people to wake up earlier." I am not sure I know a single person whose morning wake-up time is dictated by the rise of the sun. Everyone I know wakes up whatever time that their work tells them to. I am happy to have more sun after I get out of work. It was a breath of fresh air this week getting out of work and…

I am against it, because there will no longer be a time during which you do something and still viably claim to have never done it. I have never eaten a Tommy's burger with chili-fries (except between the minutes of 1:00 and 1:59 during fall back). I can account for 24 hours of every day (except spring forward) of every year.

Ok, I'm actually for it.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by ilovesunlight »

The sun sets about 2 hours later during the summer than the winter (depending on lattitude). DST adds an extra hour. In other words, 2/3rds of the "longer day" effect is from earth's tilt, and only 1/3rd is from DST. Seems like some people misunderstand this.

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Post by shepherdjerred »

NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #680
nfw2 wrote: post #320

My personal pet peeve is when people write the Standard Time acronym when scheduling cross-timezone meetings, despite the fact that it is Daylight Saving Time. (Eg. "I'll call you tomorrow at 4pm PST.") In the past, I've gotten paranoid that they may live somewhere that doesn't observe Daylight Savings, but I also don't want to seem like a pedant by bringing up their mistake. I'm curious if this change will make this…

I've never known anyone who wasn't a programmer who even knew the difference between say, PST and PDT. Like, if they didn't schedule it through a computer with up to date timezone code, I would confirm verbally.

Oh my God this explains so much of my confusion with timestamps. I didn't even know there was a difference.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by extheat »

goerz wrote: post #658
mdturnerphys wrote: post #146

More info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-tha... Important note: "Senator Marco Rubio said after input from airlines and broadcasters that supporters agreed that the change would not take place until November 2023."

Even more important note from that article: "The House of Representatives, which has held a committee hearing on the matter, still must pass the bill" I don't think there's any guarantee that they will even take up the bill, much less vote for it. (Hopefully, I'm wrong, because I would love permanent DST)

There's never a guarantee but being a unanimous vote in the Senate and one of the few bipartisan things that can actually pass both houses, I'd say it's pretty likely it will pass in some manner.

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Post by mbg721 »

throwthere wrote: post #507

Just when you thought your timezone display code was finally functioning. Now what do you call non-DST timezones? Just PST? Will we refer to our timezone as PST (DST) for the rest of our lives? Let's drop this madness and go to one worldwide timezone.

We call them "Arizona" and "that one bit of Indiana".

UTC does exist; it's not widely used in practical circles for a reason.

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Post by chrysoprace »

Speaking as a non-US person, I think this is great so long as it's across every state (can't tell from the Tweet). Here in Aus, whether to have daylight savings is determined by state/territory, which means that for half the year the entire East Coast (except for the biggest state by land area) is an hour ahead.
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