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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by unixhero »

thirdsun wrote: post #334
unixhero wrote: post #276

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Ads No background play Mainly

Those are paid features. You may disagree with the pricing but I'm not sure if those are valid complaints when you're actual issue seems to be that you don't want to pay for these features (which is, of course, legitimate).

Okay. Good point.

I can modify my behaviour instead. Watch using computers with Adblock and de program myself to want to listen to music from YouTube.

Boom done, no need for a YouTube subscription. Subscription hell has got to end.

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Post by nyuszika7h »

AnonCoward4 wrote: post #355
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #350

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If you buy a microwave and modify it, so it doesn't beep when it's done, and offer the modded version to your friends, do you deserve to be sued?

If you open up a shop where you do this (for free) I kind of think you ask to be sued. At any rate real world analoga often don't do the digital problems justice. PS.: I imply that the "beep" is the source of revenue of course, which is a bit hidden in your analogon.

Why would the beep be a source of revenue?

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Post by ascar »

Semaphor wrote: post #332
rvbissell wrote: post #184

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As a native speaker I am well aware of that, but my typing muscle-memory is to some degree phonetic and on autopilot. So I sometimes reread what I wrote and discover I used e.g. 'two' instead of 'too'. It's/its is another common one.

> e.g. 'two' instead of 'too' Oh wow. So, is this a common thing? When I type without thinking about it too much, and with my typing not being able to keep up with my brain, I tend to make those errors a lot. But I thought it was just me being dumb and not some general thing that happens to people.

Rarely happens with its for me, but to/two/too, where/there and most annoyingly know/now are common ones.

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Post by margalabargala »

josephcsible wrote: post #273
margalabargala wrote: post #258

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I agree the SSPL means Mongo and Elastic are not free software, but they are open source, and I would not consider them proprietary.

The SSPL is not open source: https://opensource.org/node/1099

You're right, sorry, I should have said source available.

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Post by margalabargala »

langsoul-com wrote: post #255
margalabargala wrote: post #222

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You seem to be under the impression that permissively licensed software is unable to be sold, nor developers financially compensated. This is not the case. There are plenty of successful software companies whose offerings are not proprietary, yet manage to pay their developers well. Example products: - MongoDB - Red Hat - Docker - Elastic Search - Vagrant

Mongodb, Docker and elastic search are not good examples. Their software was ripped and resold by a billion dollar corps and they could do nothing about it.

They pay their employees well, though- the parent I replied to was implying one could not be paid well while writing software which is given away "for free". This is clearly not the case.

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Post by yoasif_ »

svnpenn wrote: post #251
yoasif_ wrote: post #59

Not a bad idea to move towards a browser that allows for similar functionality: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2022/03/13/youtube-vanced-is-...

For anyone reading this. Don't visit the above link, just use older version instead: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/20647 To anyone out of the loop, Firefox Android has basically killed add-ons, similar to Chrome. This is why you have to go through 12 steps just to install a fucking addon.

Terrible idea - the version referenced is two years out of date with security issues.

I don't see how Firefox for Android is similar to Chrome, as Chrome doesn't have add-ons at all.

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Post by approxim8ion »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #359
rakoo wrote: post #319

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Just to understand where I'm coming from, I'm actually a proponent of all production being socialized so that people do not need to spend their life working just to live. Farmers would give their produce for free because all their needs would be met for free. But that's another debate. Libre Software can totally be funded, through individual donations or through public funding; in fact, because Libre Software is a co…

I've heard people who have similar beliefs to yours and IME they've never been able to rationalize what their society would actually look like and how we could maintain the same quality of life as we have today. Given that HN is a higher quality social media platform than most, maybe today that can change. Would you mind answering a few questions: 1. Who does the hard/dirty jobs in this society? Farming being one. Bu…

Regarding point 1, how is "the people who we force to" an acceptable answer to this? Because that's exactly what happens now. No one wants to work hard, dirty jobs, but there is a societal pressure upon them to, and enough inertia to maintain the status quo that keeps a majority of them where they are.

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Post by betwixthewires »

ajot wrote: post #346
betwixthewires wrote: post #287

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I've got another solution, it's kiwi browser (or Firefox, if they've graciously allowed us to install extensions we want on our machines) + redirector (add on) + invidious.

> Firefox, if they've graciously allowed us to install extensions we want on our machines The F-Droid guys have forked Firefox for Android to let you use any extension you want. They named it Fennec as the older Firefox, but is just the name, the codebase is the new Fenix one. https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/

It's not forked by f-droid, it is maintained by Mozilla to not contain any proprietary blobs in accordance with the official f-droid repo policy, and last time I used it it only allowed curated extensions as of the fenix update. I'll try it out again.

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Post by betwixthewires »

bdlowery wrote: post #302
betwixthewires wrote: post #282

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That's why I use an invidious proxy and a redirector extension.

The lengths people will go to to get around paying $10 a month for YouTube premium.

It's not much of a length. It's set it and forget it. Way cheaper for me than $10 a month, that's a whole extra banana every month.

I shouldn't have to pay a monthly recurring charge to get some company to undo their kneecapping of how my hardware and software (that I own, outright, code and all according to GPL) works just because their business model isn't compatible with me being in control of what's mine.

It's no small thing, just brushing off $10 a month is hubris. For half the worlds population that's a third of their income. And for some of us other people, I don't want my money going to google, period. I don't care if it is 10 cents a month, I'm not paying a company to solve a problem they created on purpose in order to charge for the solution.

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Post by MathCodeLove »

approxim8ion wrote: post #417
MathCodeLove wrote: post #359

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I've heard people who have similar beliefs to yours and IME they've never been able to rationalize what their society would actually look like and how we could maintain the same quality of life as we have today. Given that HN is a higher quality social media platform than most, maybe today that can change. Would you mind answering a few questions: 1. Who does the hard/dirty jobs in this society? Farming being one. Bu…

Regarding point 1, how is "the people who we force to" an acceptable answer to this? Because that's exactly what happens now. No one wants to work hard, dirty jobs, but there is a societal pressure upon them to, and enough inertia to maintain the status quo that keeps a majority of them where they are.

Lol are you joking? I would wager my life that not a single blue collar worker in America takes or remains in a job that they hate out of societal pressure to do so. Having grown up in am environment where my social group was almost nothing but manual laborers, the only pressure they felt was financial. The difference between them and say, a SWE was often to some extent baseline intelligence coupled in with lack existing accreditation in terms of degrees or certification, and lack of motivation, interest and or ability to obtain such.

The suggestions that we as a society should basically just bully a certain number of people into undesirable positions is egregious and almost worse than blatant authoritarianism. At least today the people working those jobs are usually compensated better than they would be in another obtainable position given their skills amd ability.

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