I am extremely surprised at all the people who are against this, saying that "Making DST permanent forces people to wake up earlier." I am not sure I know a single person whose morning wake-up time is dictated by the rise of the sun. Everyone I know wakes up whatever time that their work tells them to. I am happy to have more sun after I get out of work. It was a breath of fresh air this week getting out of work and…
Isn’t this just some random Twitter account? There isn’t even a link to a real source
US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
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#692I'm 100% for this as long as the FAANGs enforce work schedules tied to public education schedules.
You will all know what it's like to have a morning newspaper route.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#693Studies have shown that later sunsets lead to worse health and economic outcomes. People who live on the western edge of a timezone earn 3% less and have higher rates of lifestyle diseases than those on the eastern edge, because they go to bed later but wake at the same socially-prescribed time, and therefore get less sleep. [1]
So why make DST instead of eliminating it entirely? It seems earlier sunset would be much more beneficial for society.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/04/19/how-livin...
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#694I am extremely surprised at all the people who are against this, saying that "Making DST permanent forces people to wake up earlier." I am not sure I know a single person whose morning wake-up time is dictated by the rise of the sun. Everyone I know wakes up whatever time that their work tells them to. I am happy to have more sun after I get out of work. It was a breath of fresh air this week getting out of work and…
For folks with seasonal affective disorder, this makes winter even more hellacious. Timing of light and absence of light is critical - early morning light exposure greatly benefits people with SAD.
Buy a wake-up light, then. We can’t force everyone to adapt to other people’s disorders.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#695I am extremely surprised at all the people who are against this, saying that "Making DST permanent forces people to wake up earlier." I am not sure I know a single person whose morning wake-up time is dictated by the rise of the sun. Everyone I know wakes up whatever time that their work tells them to. I am happy to have more sun after I get out of work. It was a breath of fresh air this week getting out of work and…
> I am not sure I know a single person whose morning wake-up time is dictated by the rise of the sun.
I try to when I can. But you are right. Most people's lives revolve around work. For most of human existence, our lives revolved around the sun. Now it revolves around a job.
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#696It feels like we live in such a post-truth world, even the clock will now be an untruth. Couldn't we just use standard time, and let people wake and sleep when they choose, instead of creating an illusion for them?
All of time is an illusion. I mean yes, time is constant but our units of measurement are 100% made up. TZs are just as much of an illusion as picking DST/Standard year round, clocks are only "true" because we say they are. If you want to live in a world where time is not an illusion then drop all measurements except seconds, measure things in mega-seconds/kilo-seconds/etc, and remove TZ/Hours/Days/Weeks/Months/Years…
All of reality is an illusion, but I live in it, on Earth, and I am biologically tied to the sun and culturally indoctrinated and tied to conceiving of the day as starting in the middle of the night. Instead of trying to discard the legacy tech debt of billions of years of evolution and thousands of years (maybe more!) of culture that I need to sync with other humans, I think I'll find a solution that integrates with them.
The philosophy is interesting and valuable, truly, but it's not a solution today.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#697Studies have shown that later sunsets lead to worse health and economic outcomes. People who live on the western edge of a timezone earn 3% less and have higher rates of lifestyle diseases than those on the eastern edge, because they go to bed later but wake at the same socially-prescribed time, and therefore get less sleep. [1] So why make DST instead of eliminating it entirely? It seems earlier sunset would be much…
Only a correlation, and a small one at that.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#698I am extremely surprised at all the people who are against this, saying that "Making DST permanent forces people to wake up earlier." I am not sure I know a single person whose morning wake-up time is dictated by the rise of the sun. Everyone I know wakes up whatever time that their work tells them to. I am happy to have more sun after I get out of work. It was a breath of fresh air this week getting out of work and…
For folks with seasonal affective disorder, this makes winter even more hellacious. Timing of light and absence of light is critical - early morning light exposure greatly benefits people with SAD.
I think for folks with any kind of seasonal affective disorder, having a fixed time on the clock year-round is still beneficial. Take more vacation in winter. Push for slightly more flexible work hours or at least a later first-meeting-of-the-day.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#699We did this before, about 50 years ago. Going in, close to 80% of people supported permanent Daylight Saving Time. After experiencing a single winter, that dropped to close to 40%, and it was repealed. Looks like we may be doomed to repeat the experience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_time_observation_in_...
Thank you for this link. I guess we really are doomed to repeat history.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#700I am extremely surprised at all the people who are against this, saying that "Making DST permanent forces people to wake up earlier." I am not sure I know a single person whose morning wake-up time is dictated by the rise of the sun. Everyone I know wakes up whatever time that their work tells them to. I am happy to have more sun after I get out of work. It was a breath of fresh air this week getting out of work and…
For folks with seasonal affective disorder, this makes winter even more hellacious. Timing of light and absence of light is critical - early morning light exposure greatly benefits people with SAD.
Disagree. Having the sun set so early is far more depressing than it rising a little later in the winter. I'd rather have a 7am sunrise than a 4pm sunset.