Does anyone else find it incredibly fucked up that the government gets to dictate our concepts of time?
US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#642All I can say is that it must take alot of confidence, for lack of a better term, to look at what time the sun goes down and to decide that you are going to change that.
Really they're looking at the time people wake up compared to when the sun rises and deciding they're going to change that.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#643Goodness. Just end daylight savings time, problem solved. Oh you don't like waking up at 6, you'd rather wake up at 7? Well I've got news for you, you're waking up at the same time either way it's just that the clock shows an hour later. What time it is is when the sun comes up and goes down, not what number it is on the clock, the clock is supposed to be indicative of where the sun is in the sky, not the other way around.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#644Surprised they didn't compromise and go to 4, half hour adjustments per year.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#645The sunrise & sunset calculator at https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/ will plot how this affects your location.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#646This is ridiculous. Why don't they make the regular time permanent? And if people want to have more light in the evening, then they just leave work earlier. Surely that is easier than permanent daylight savings time. I know people will say it's too hard to change habits and (clock) work hours, but with permanent DST you will have to change that anyway, when people realize how dark winter mornings will be. I predict a…
This is ridiculous. Why don't they make the DST permanent? And if people want to have more light in the MORNING , then they just WAKE UP LATER . Surely that is easier than permanent REGULAR time.
This is ridiculous. Why don't they make AEST time permanent? And if people want to have more light in the DAYTIME, they can just MOVE TO AUSTRALIA. Surely that is easier than PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO SEE MY FACE DURING ZOOM MEETINGS.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#647I'd kill for a peek into the parallel universe where it was permanent standard time that was likely to get adopted and see how much effort went into researching the ill effects of that choice to convince people with enough FUD to keep daylight time switching going. Here's the thing: If you're a proponent of permanent standard time, you should be in favour of turning off the switching no matter what. Even if it means…
Does permanent DST mean : A. The sun rises earlier and sets earlier. B. The sun rises later, but sun sets later too.
DST is "summer time", so the sun rises later but sets later too.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#648I'd kill for a peek into the parallel universe where it was permanent standard time that was likely to get adopted and see how much effort went into researching the ill effects of that choice to convince people with enough FUD to keep daylight time switching going. Here's the thing: If you're a proponent of permanent standard time, you should be in favour of turning off the switching no matter what. Even if it means…
I am in favor of permanent standard time, but failing that, I am super happy with permanent daylight-saving time. Far more important to me is ridding ourselves of the twice-annual insanity of changing clocks. I'd be okay with adopting UTC if that meant our clocks never changed again.
At this point your main clocks, your phone and your computer, change themselves for you. Daylight savings time is no big deal really, it's just something to gripe about.
That said, I'm heavily in favor of ending it. It's stupid. But I disagree that permanent DST is less stupid than time changes. I think the idea of permanently having the clock say an hour later than it is is just as senseless or more so than the yearly switch. Just end this madness and be done with it.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#649I'd kill for a peek into the parallel universe where it was permanent standard time that was likely to get adopted and see how much effort went into researching the ill effects of that choice to convince people with enough FUD to keep daylight time switching going. Here's the thing: If you're a proponent of permanent standard time, you should be in favour of turning off the switching no matter what. Even if it means…
I am in favor of permanent standard time, but failing that, I am super happy with permanent daylight-saving time. Far more important to me is ridding ourselves of the twice-annual insanity of changing clocks. I'd be okay with adopting UTC if that meant our clocks never changed again.
What's people's deal with changing clocks? It's never bothered me.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#650I think I can say this on behalf of most developers who have ever had to fix DST errors in their code: Thank fucking god. I am shocked that none of our unit tests failed on Monday. One of the first code reviews I did here I pointed out that his tests were going to break in a few months when DST kicked in because his tests asserted that there was a 24 hour gap between two calculations. He responded this code was tempo…
> I think I can say this on behalf of most developers who have ever had to fix DST errors in their code: Thank fucking god. I think it just means for all American developers it's _more_ likely they'll introduce bugs if they cater to an international audience and there's still countries with DST. DST has always been a good way to get Devs to think about the timezone database. If people start relying on offsets more th…
Or that DST support is not even built or an afterthought.
You should know in how many frameworks and libraries i18n is an afterthought and much more cumbersome than necessary.