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US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#442I really don't like that they picked permanent DST. Does no one realize that this means that we all have to get up one hour earlier year round? That kids will have to travel to school in the dark for the majority of the year, including in most cases standing around in the freezing cold at unlit bus stops? It's still better than resetting the clocks. But I really they should have chosen standard time. Also, this means…
Does no one realize that this means that we all have to get up one hour earlier year round?
9 months after the final change, it'll just be regular time and it'll no longer be early.
That kids will have to travel to school in the dark for the majority of the year, including in most cases standing around in the freezing cold at unlit bus stops?
Why are your stops unlit? I mean, that isn't due to the time, but a basic infrastructure failure. In some areas, though, a neighborhood will communally pay for a streetlight - you might be able to get some installed in your neighborhood.
I'll mention that kids here (Norway) walk to school in the dark and freezing weather. They stand at bus stops, too. Not a big deal.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#443This is excellent. With the rise of air conditioning, daylight savings has considerably less electricity savings than it used to. It will also make timekeeping more consistent. I have lived in Arizona for the past few years and it is pleasant to know that you will always be at UTC-7:00.
Arizona only goes by Mountain Standard time (UTC -7:00). If Daylight savings time becomes permanent will Arizona always be an hour off from the rest of Mountain time zone?
Arizona would likely just move to Pacific time in that case
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#444The whole world going to the same time zone, usually proposed in these discussions, doesn't work - sun-time dissociates with clock-time, making words like "night" and "noon" confusing. However, I would like to see a North American Standard time (NAT): Set the clock at half-way between US Mountain and Central times and apply it to all of North America (with maybe a few extreme exceptions, such as western Alaska and Ha…
I'd be pretty ok with this, but I'm also biased because I live in central. Calis probably won't like it much because they'll be getting up hours before the sun.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#445If we’re going to stop switching clocks, shouldn't it obviously be for permanent standard time, not DST?
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#446I really don't like that they picked permanent DST. Does no one realize that this means that we all have to get up one hour earlier year round? That kids will have to travel to school in the dark for the majority of the year, including in most cases standing around in the freezing cold at unlit bus stops? It's still better than resetting the clocks. But I really they should have chosen standard time. Also, this means…
> That kids will have to travel to school in the dark for the majority of the year, including in most cases standing around in the freezing cold at unlit bus stops?
In my experience kids have superior night vision and rarely care about what temperature it is outside.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#447We did this before, about 50 years ago. Going in, close to 80% of people supported permanent Daylight Saving Time. After experiencing a single winter, that dropped to close to 40%, and it was repealed. Looks like we may be doomed to repeat the experience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_time_observation_in_...
Same thing is happening in Turkey now. Everyone gets depressed when it's dark outside when they wake up, every day of the year.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#448People literally die more because of these changes. Statistically measurable increase in mortality on these days. Save lives, stop changing the clocks.
I hate to be that guy but if you're dying because the clocks changed and it was too much of a burden for you to re-adjust (like literally everyone else does) then oh well. Policy decisions based on dodgy, whataboutism-esque figures is, in my opinion, what undergirded the incredibly incompetent COVID response here in the US, and elsewhere.
I suspect you don't hate to be that guy all that much
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#449I think I can say this on behalf of most developers who have ever had to fix DST errors in their code: Thank fucking god. I am shocked that none of our unit tests failed on Monday. One of the first code reviews I did here I pointed out that his tests were going to break in a few months when DST kicked in because his tests asserted that there was a 24 hour gap between two calculations. He responded this code was tempo…
If this law will solve your problems then I … guess your code doesn't have to work outside the US?
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#450This is ridiculous. Why don't they make the regular time permanent? And if people want to have more light in the evening, then they just leave work earlier. Surely that is easier than permanent daylight savings time.
I know people will say it's too hard to change habits and (clock) work hours, but with permanent DST you will have to change that anyway, when people realize how dark winter mornings will be. I predict a lot of people will want to move school start to a later hour then.