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US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by Brian_K_White »

This is a great idea! Instead of just working from 8 to 4 to leave an hour of daylight after work, let's instead tilt all the clocks so that noon is at 11am.

Why stop with the clocks?

Today I announce my genius proposal Wallet Saving Prices.

Everyone wants more money left over after they buy something, so the obvious way to achieve that is just slide all the numbering systems left by one.

Henceforth all prices shall be written on a scale that starts at -1 instead of 0. If a thing cost $4 yesterday, it now costs the same 4 dollars, but the price is written as $3. This will give everyone more money!

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by patwolf »

Back in '08 when the US dates of DST changed, I was working on a Java-based enterprise software product with a relatively large install base. It suddenly became known to a lot of customers that timezone tables are part of the JRE, and simply updating the OS wasn't enough to get proper time calculations in Java. It was a very stressful time getting customers with many different versions of Java across dozens of platforms properly updated. A lot of customers were running ancient versions of Java that were well past EOL, but we still helped them out.

Needless to say, I'm very happy this might finally happen. I do not, however, envy whoever is now supporting that software. I'm sure there are folks that haven't touched their systems since the last DST change.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by omgwtf1000 »

technothrasher wrote: post #58

Does this mean that I will no longer be able to smugly remind people that there is only one 's' in "daylight saving time"? It was really the only reason I could see for keeping the biannual time change around.

Haha, one of my favorites too. Another one is Driver License.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by ragnese »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #341

This is a great idea! Instead of just working from 8 to 4 to leave an hour of daylight after work, let's instead tilt all the clocks so that noon is at 11am. Why stop with the clocks? Today I announce my genius proposal Wallet Saving Prices. Everyone wants more money left over after they buy something, so the obvious way to achieve that is just slide all the numbering systems left by one. Henceforth all prices shall…

Who cares what time the clock says? I don't care if they do permanent DST or permanent not-DST; just stop with the twice a year changing!

So, I'm super happy about this.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by soheil »

chapium wrote: post #47

I know this is hardly a radical take, but I don't care what time it is. I can adjust my schedule appropriately. What I hate is changing the time. It makes us all sicker, causes accidents, and workers in certain professions have to work weird hours to keep up with the changes. It's such a drag on the economy and only seems to serve a small fragment of society.

It's my damn oven's time that I neglect to correct for about 3 months every single time.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by singlow »

withzombies wrote: post #311
mdturnerphys wrote: post #146

More info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-tha... Important note: "Senator Marco Rubio said after input from airlines and broadcasters that supporters agreed that the change would not take place until November 2023."

The Hill article[1] says it won't go into effect until November 20, 2023. > The proposal would not take effect until Nov. 20, 2023, to give airlines and other transportation industries more time to adjust to the change. But we switch back to standard time on November 5, 2023. Just to get two weeks of that until we switch back to summer time permanently? [1] https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/598314-senate-unanimousl…

After that date we would no longer transition away from daylight saving time. It would not cause an immediate transition. There would be one more transition in the following year to get back onto daylight saving time. So the effective effective date is really march of 2024.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by zozbot234 »

humansuit wrote: post #177

As long as they eliminate the constant inane switching back and forth. Sleep disruption is harmful in many ways and all this practice seems to actually do, old wives' tales about farmers and circumstantial localized benefits aside, is induce it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5449130/

The point of that 'switching back and forth' between standard time and DST is to let the clock approximate a constant time for dawn, which in turn should lead to the most efficient use of daylight. Permanent DST just ensures very dark mornings around the Winter Solstice period - December and January especially, Nov and Feb to a lesser extent - which in turn means more stress (since it's a lot harder to wake up with no natural light) and lots of car accidents as people commute to work. It's a pretty bad idea all around.
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