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US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by nullc »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #212

This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. There's a reason why "Standard Time" is called that. Now the words "Midday" and "Midnight" are meaningless. The measurement of time is a science, and science should not be decided by politicians. This seems trivial, but if this, then what next? Edit: I'm getting a lot of replies saying that "midday" isn't precisely the middle of the day, and therefore I am wrong, but even s…

Noon isn't solar noon except at three lines through the continental US, everywhere else it's off specifically as a result of using standard time instead of solar time.

Saying on DST vs 'Standard time' is a much smaller additional error than that created by the non-zero width (and political boundary alignment) of the timezones.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by kevinmgranger »

rhexs wrote: post #228
mdturnerphys wrote: post #146

More info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-tha... Important note: "Senator Marco Rubio said after input from airlines and broadcasters that supporters agreed that the change would not take place until November 2023."

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From some of the industries that would be most impacted by it, and those impacts being ones that would cascade to the people who fly or consume broadcasted media?

Yeah, they should be talking to them.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by tastyfreeze »

chapium wrote: post #47

I know this is hardly a radical take, but I don't care what time it is. I can adjust my schedule appropriately. What I hate is changing the time. It makes us all sicker, causes accidents, and workers in certain professions have to work weird hours to keep up with the changes. It's such a drag on the economy and only seems to serve a small fragment of society.

Which fragment of society are you thinking time changing benefits? The common one I hear is farmers. Which is complete BS. Farmers work by the sun because the plants and animals they care for don't use clocks.

https://agamerica.com/blog/myth-vs-fact-daylight-saving-time...

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by falcolas »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #114
joezydeco wrote: post #45

We did this before. 46 years ago. And it went badly. https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/30/the-year-daylight-sav... Why do we have such short memories?

Oh the children! Give me a break. Go to school in the dark, or come home in the dark. Do that one time of year, or another. It all comes out in the wash.

I would also note that in the northern states, children go to school in the dark (and often also come home in the dark) regardless of DST/ST, because we hold school over winter, and we get about 8-9 hours of sunlight a day in the winter.

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Post by giantg2 »

Background information for all the people talking about what is early and what isn't. (Not that this settles the definition but does show when people need to be starting the work day, and thus the number affected)

https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/overflow-data-finds-th...

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by nullc »

tempestn wrote: post #194
divbzero wrote: post #124

This means permanently EDT/CDT/MDT/PDT? Or would EST/CST/MST/PST all be shifted by +01:00? I am also curious if Canada or other countries would follow suit.

At least in BC we already have legislation to do this as soon as the western states do. In Alberta it just got voted down by a very slim margin, so if the US made the switch I expect that would be enough to swing it there as well. I expect other provinces would follow suit as well, assuming the federal government didn't just make the decision for everyone (which they probably would if the whole US went to permanent D…

In California the law of the land is already that we'll switch to permanent DST when the federal government allows it.

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Post by colinmhayes »

HWR_14 wrote: post #171
joezydeco wrote: post #45

We did this before. 46 years ago. And it went badly. https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/30/the-year-daylight-sav... Why do we have such short memories?

It worked fine 46 years ago. People bitched then "about the children" while insisting that schools couldn't start later. That's just crazy. What is different this time? It wasn't bad before, that's what.

Schools can't really start later. Parents need to drop kids off before they start work. I guess we could have everyone start work an hour later too, but I don't see that happening.
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