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US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by lotsofpulp »

somenewaccount1 wrote: post #100

does this make the clock flip-flopping permanent, or that we will stop doing it? personally, i just want to punch the moving clock in the face. it nearly killed me last year when I was just starting to get an exercise routine at the end of winter, and then it sent me back into the dark by an hour, completely fucking up my schedule. i absolutely blame many of my problems on these flip flopping clocks, and I do not thi…

The flip flopping is currently “permanent”, this bill would stop the flip flopping.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by mbesto »

joezydeco wrote: post #45

We did this before. 46 years ago. And it went badly. https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/30/the-year-daylight-sav... Why do we have such short memories?

FTA

> By fall, the dark mornings were apparently wearing on the American people.

This is the reason for "it went badly"? Since that article didn't address it, what exactly happened when we didn't have DST?

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by collegeburner »

scotuswroteus wrote: post #137
collegeburner wrote: post #110

Fuck this. Keeping the DST change is still better than keeping DST permanently. We should stay on standard time all year, I'm sick of having 0 daylight in the morning when I get up.

You get up too early. Relax

You get up too late. Relax. If I get up later I can't go to the gym and get a good workout, then sit and drink my coffee and eat breakfast before work.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by puffoflogic »

arjvik wrote: post #19

So are we permanently going to be on "{Eastern,Central,Mountain,Pacific} Daylight Time"? Or are we redefining the time zones "{Eastern,Central,Mountain,Pacific} Standard Time"?

Given that the US Congress doesn't really have the social authority to do the latter...

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by geerlingguy »

basisword wrote: post #90

Can someone explain why they actually care about this? I always see such strong opinions on it but really, why does it matter to you? Most clocks are digital and change automatically these days and otherwise changing your clocks twice a year is such a minor inconvenience. And whether or not the light should be preferred in the morning or vending is probably a pretty even split. Maybe it’s better to get rid of it (I d…

For 1-2 weeks post-time-change, I used to adjust okay, it was just annoying.

But kids and pets have no clue what's going on, and their bodies are basically jolted into a different sleep schedule since society doesn't have any ramp-up/ramp-down into the new hour difference.

We have basically been fighting to get our kids up (fighting against their own bodies' sleep schedules and instincts) this week. And when the time changes again in the fall, we end up getting woken up "an hour early" since the kids don't care to sleep an extra hour that day.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by dcdc123 »

TheCoelacanth wrote: post #26

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

I think the idea was to give an hour of light later in the day for when people are off work.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by salawat »

So who is going to update all the non networked electronic clocks that automatically adjust for standard/DST changes?

This is the problem with Congress... No connection feedbackwise to the ungodly hell made by the legislation they pass. It's always someone else's problem.

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Post by tempestn »

TheCoelacanth wrote: post #26

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

We're already on DST 2/3 of the year; it's considerably less disruptive to keep it year-round than to switch to all standard time. Not to mention many of us find DST strictly superior given the common work/life schedule. In the summer, standard time would mean it gets light even more ridiculously early than it already does, so you just lose useful light, rather than having it to enjoy summer evenings outdoors. In the winter it's certainly more of a preference thing, but there are plenty of us who would sacrifice light in the morning for more light after work.
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