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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#101
We thought Y2K38 would be the next big industry challenge, but I expect a lot of things are going to go wrong with a change with just a year or two of notice.

I love that this is happening, but I'm pretty certain a lot of random things are going to break when the cutover happens.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#102

>Sunshine Protection Act Jesus, does everything need to be hyperbolic virtue signaling. Won't someone please think of the children!

I would love someone to propose a bill that requires the elimination of hyperbolic virtue signaling from all future bills, perhaps as an additional step in whatever pipeline is used to produce bills. Just need a hyperbolic virtue signaling name for it!

American Integrity Act

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#103

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Just change your waking/sleeping hours then. It's just a number. Set your sleeping hours based on actual daylight times instead of the number on the clock.

Personally I'm happy they just pick one and stick with it.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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I mentioned something similar in a comment last year, but I think there's going to be a lot of moaning about late sunrises in US in December. Roughly 8:15-8:20 am around the solstice in New York, DC, Chicago, and even Austin. Not til nearly 9am in Seattle. The sun won't rise before 8am in NYC for basically all of December and January. I'd even be willing to guess that the amount of moaning might be equal to what we g…

Enough from these self centered early risers. They go to bed at 7 PM. They live in homes full of "live, laugh, love" decorations. They tuck in their shirts. Enough.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#105

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

I think I speak on behalf of most computer people when I say this: we prefer our extra hour of sunshine in the evenings not mornings.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#106

>Sunshine Protection Act Jesus, does everything need to be hyperbolic virtue signaling. Won't someone please think of the children!

I would love someone to propose a bill that requires the elimination of hyperbolic virtue signaling from all future bills, perhaps as an additional step in whatever pipeline is used to produce bills. Just need a hyperbolic virtue signaling name for it!

Aren't there some legislatures that have guidelines on promoting neutral naming of legislation, in order to reduce the marketing or manipulation value of act titles?

It does seem like the "AWESOME Goodness Act" or "CUTE Puppies Act" phenomenon is especially strong here in the U.S.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#107

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

When it’s scarce you want to waste it on the early morning?

I too am a night owl - but we need light in the morning more than later into the evening. A lot of kids have weird school start times which leads the morning commute being a lot more distributed than the evening one. Walking to the bus alone on dark streets isn't safe for a good chunk of the population.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#108

>Sunshine Protection Act Jesus, does everything need to be hyperbolic virtue signaling. Won't someone please think of the children!

When did virtue signaling become a bad thing? If the goal of the act is to protect people's access to sunshine, why not say as much -- at least the act has a human readable name.

> When did virtue signaling become a bad thing?

I'll offer no commentary on whether "Sunshine Protection Act" is virtue signaling, but I think virtue signaling is less "talking about having done virtuous things" and more "talking about doing virtuous things with the intent to gain social capital". It's the facade, the ulterior motive that most people balk at. In that sense it has always been a "bad" thing.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#109

This is excellent. With the rise of air conditioning, daylight savings has considerably less electricity savings than it used to. It will also make timekeeping more consistent. I have lived in Arizona for the past few years and it is pleasant to know that you will always be at UTC-7:00.

True, but this keeps daylight savings permanent not standard time.

If your state doesn't like that, they can switch time zones.
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