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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#51

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Honestly don’t even care at this point, would take either way to end this nonsense.

This was my response, too. I have a slight preference for standard time, but anything to avoid the twice-a-year switch is appreciated.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#52

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Mornings are for work. Evenings are for fun.

DST is just what’s needed.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#53

>Sunshine Protection Act Jesus, does everything need to be hyperbolic virtue signaling. Won't someone please think of the children!

When did virtue signaling become a bad thing? If the goal of the act is to protect people's access to sunshine, why not say as much -- at least the act has a human readable name.

It's not a bad thing, but in the eyes of people who genuinely believe they do not do it.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#54

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Which is what this effectively does. We can get sunset at 5pm instead of 4pm in the winter in Seattle now.

Really, the choice is a tradeoff between earlier sunrises or later sunsets.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#56

We did this before. 46 years ago. And it went badly. https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/30/the-year-daylight-sav... Why do we have such short memories?

Because our politics are in many ways a clown show. It probably polls well when you ask regular people who haven't considered why we do this. That they feel sad because the Sun goes down at 5:00AM when it's cold but don't consider that without this then the Sun won't come up until 8:30AM.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#59
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What does this mean in terms of short-term, real-world effect in the US?

Daylight Savings has real effect on the northern states than southern states.

One of the arguments for Day light savings change is that -- it would still be dark during the time kids go to school in winter, early spring and late fall, many places in US will not have Sun rise at 8:00am. No matter how much we may be removed from the nature -- our wakeful hours are directly impacted by Sun rise and Sun set. On the other side, there are discomforts in moving the clock twice a year across the board.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#60

Won’t take effect until 2023, but good to see it happen.

Can you explain to me why this is good. It seems like a pain, but I assume there must be a good reason for it. Does it truly save energy? Is this documented somewhere?

Changing the clocks is a lot of hassle for dubious benefit.
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