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Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by farkas »

microtonal wrote: post #68
farkas wrote: post #61

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Just as a FYI - we don't have any disk limits (apart from fair use). We don't want our pricing to be based on repos, or disk space, or any other limitation that is hard to predict, or encourages sub-optimal decision making to optimise cost. We think that users is the best way to price a product, and is easy to predict. In terms of UI - there are things that bug me today, but our team is cranking along improving it. B…

Just as a FYI - we don't have any disk limits (apart from fair use). Let me ask you about a particular case then :). I am in a group that develops a natural language parser for Dutch. It's open source, but so far we have been hosting it in a private Subversion repository on our university servers. We do provide a read-only (somewhat hidden) git mirror of the tree, but we have considered publishing it as an public git…

It's fine. However, we would recommend pushing and pulling over SSH for speed.

And let me clarify: by fair-use we mean we offer unlimited _code_ hosting, not general storage. We monitor for abuse, such as large repos containing only music, videos, and public viruses or malware. Though don't worry - if we notice any problems we'd of course contact you first.

We'd love to have you as a customer!

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by watty »

johnthedebs wrote: post #9

This is great news, very exciting for people who need a nice place to stash all their private git repos but didn't want to upgrade their GitHub plans for not-that-important projects. Very interesting that they've decided to compete directly too. I wonder if/how GitHub will respond. I strongly prefer their UI and already have a paid plan, but I find myself shuffling repos within the confines of that plan rather than s…

My company has many very small projects that needed to be archived yet weren't completely closed (possible to re-open for new feature). We started with GitHub but were forced to leave since they didn't have any viable plans - ended up moving to SpringLoops which charges on "active" projects. Basically we can close and re-open as many projects as we'd like as long as < 10 are active.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by vog »

trebor wrote: post #107
vog wrote: post #90

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> There's a number of projects that I just won't put online because I'd rather lose than share them. Assuming that those projects don't generate much revenue for you [1], what's the point of keeping them private? From a political point of view, I always see such projects as a good opportunity to promote Free Software. From an economic point of view, I like to put some pressure on my competitors that way. For really v…

I can afford to upgrade my Github account, but I'm a bit cheap when it comes to doing so. I do a lot of experimentation and I'm of the opinion that not everything I do is worthy of sharing. I've partially written a web interface for pianobar, a feed to rss translator for reformatting NOAA forecasts (they discontinued the REST service), some wiki-like software, and even some barebones PBX interfaces for an Asterisk re…

> I'm of the opinion that not everything I do is worthy of sharing

The same is true for me. But who defines what is "worthy of sharing"? I believe this question is to be answered by others, not by oneself. It's generally hard to say whether something will be interesting or uninteresting to others, i.e. worthy or unworthy of sharing.

I've seen some surprises in the past after publishing pet projects which I thought weren't worth much, and weren't really complete. Nevertheless, some of them did get interest, and with the help of others they did become good and almost complete.

Of course there are also other projects which I published, which nobody else was interested in, where I finally lost interest and which are hopelessly outdated crap by now.

However, I couldn't have told you in advance which of my projects will or will not share this fate.

Having that said, I fully agree that one shouldn't publish every crap. But I have quite good experiences with: When in doubt, publish!

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by krobertson »

ergo14 wrote: post #19
krobertson wrote: post #15

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I doubt it. There is no need for them to, they aren't hurting or struggling. Running businesses with "lets offer more for free" and "ohh crap, they offer more for free, lets lower our price" is a race to the bottom. It is actually moves like these that make me question Bitbucket more. How viable is the service long term? Do I want to trust all my own code to them?

You sound like an apple customer, you get more for same price and consider this a bad thing... Pigs indeed fly. It doesn't cost them a lot more in infrastructure to provide alternate dvcs - so your point seems to be completly invalid. More and more I'm starting to think that git is some kind of religion. We benefit from competition between those 2 platforms and in the end this is what should count the most for us - c…

Yes, I am an Apple customer, though really don't think that has anything to do with it.

My opinion stems from running my own SaaS applications, seen the business downsides of all the free stuff, and now don't focus very much on the free aspect. I prefer trial.

I also recognize that me paying for a service I like is a healthy way to help that service stay around, because that is how I view it when my customers are paying me.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by farkas »

ergosum wrote: post #110
jstepka wrote: post #27

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Thanks for pointing this out.

Since we have your attention... :) http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Bitbucket+... - shows error message "Unable to render {include} The included page could not be found."

Thanks. As I'm sure you've guessed, this was a permissions problem with some of the pages we'd been keeping quiet until the launch. Let us know if you find any more.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by krobertson »

cookiecaper wrote: post #30
krobertson wrote: post #15

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I doubt it. There is no need for them to, they aren't hurting or struggling. Running businesses with "lets offer more for free" and "ohh crap, they offer more for free, lets lower our price" is a race to the bottom. It is actually moves like these that make me question Bitbucket more. How viable is the service long term? Do I want to trust all my own code to them?

Since Bitbucket is based on DVCSes, you won't actually lose any of your code even if they do go under, so it's probably a better question if you trust them with your issue tracking than with your code.

Sure, its DVCS, but if they go away, where will you host it now?

You are choosing to use Bitbucket for specific reasons. If they shut down because Atlassian is burning money and wants to trim the bottom line, then you now need to find something else to fill those specific needs again.

You don't lose any code, but you now need to figure something else out. And if you were relying on "free unlimited private repositories" you might not find that on another and now have to pay for something else.

Personally, I use GitHub daily for my job, but my private code isn't with GitHub.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by flexd »

vog wrote: post #109
TreesCanCode wrote: post #103

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Not poster but in a similar position myself. What about incomplete projects? Messy/hacky experiments? Completely idiotic/backwards stuff done for fun? Play-projects purely attempted for "ha I did it!"? Legally-grey (or blatantly illegal) projects? Or even school projects? I have hundreds of projects that fit in those categories, and none will ever be made publicly available. Sometimes it's just not good form to make…

> incomplete projects? It depends on what you mean by "incomplete". 50 lines of code which do almost nothing useful are probably not worth publishing. But why not publishing a half-complete project? Publishing may help you find contributors. And the early feedback helps you to decide if your project is worth more intense attention. > Messy/hacky experiments? If the code is not too bad, I publish even that stuff (as l…

> However, these are only project works. I will never publish specific solutions to homework excercises, as this would only help cheaters and nobody else. Which is why (lite) private repoes would be nice. I wouldn't want to hand out all the answers to my school assignments but I'd still like to keep them tracked with git (depending on the size). At the moment I've just put my coding folder inside Dropbox which in a way acts like version control (in the sense that I won't lose the code.

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by josephcooney »

josephcooney wrote: post #118
rmc wrote: post #7

Bitbucket (a popular mercurial hosting site) has added git support. Has any popular git hosting site added mercurial support? This shows which DVCS is winning.

Google Code, and Microsoft's CodePlex have, yes.

Oops...I mis-read your question. I thought you asked "Has any popular hosting site added mercurial support?"

Re: Bitbucket now rocks Git

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Post by manojlds »

LeafStorm wrote: post #4

You know, I actually expected that the opposite would happen: GitHub would start offering Mercurial hosting. Because Git isn't what attracts most people to GitHub. It's the sheer fact that GitHub is frickin' HUGE and has lots of people who will show up, fork your project, and send you a pull request. I love Bitbucket, but honestly if GitHub added Mercurial support I would probably move all the way to GitHub because o…

Exactly, GitHub is to Git as Rails is to Ruby.
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