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Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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> You might think that, if a single person can create or maintain a tool that's worth millions of dollars a year to the company, our competitors would do the same thing, just like you might think that if you can ship faster and at a lower cost by hiring a person who knows how to crack a wafer open, our competitors would do that, but they mostly didn't. He mentions a small chip startup he worked at for these examples,…

You miss the point though, as the problem is two-sided. The consumer struggles to find a quality product because they simply don't know how. The producer also struggles to produce a quality product, because it's hard to know what the consumer really wants. The cheat is to sell brand instead, to market quality regardless of if it's actually there. I would argue Apple is an example of a company that started with qualit…

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Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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You are depressed for other reasons. People read the title and connected more with the title than the hard-to-read and dense article. If anything, call it a click-baity title. It is hard to buy consumer products that work well also. Look at the number of things you order on Amazon, and see how satisfied you are with stuff. All the synthetic material low-quality stuff.

So not only did you not read the article , you are offended at the idea that you should have to read the article at all ?

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Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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As a random anecdote, I own a steelcase gesture that runs about $1,100. I also own a 70$ chair from costco and I can "barely" feel the difference. I have all my settings configured correctly. I really don't buy into the the expensive officechair hype. I think it's a level of diminishing returns. I think a $200 office chairs is about what anyone needs. That'll get you 90%+ of the way.

Where would you say you sit on the physical-dimensions bell curve? I'd hope that the more expensive chair has better adjustability to suit a wider range of critical dimensions than the cheaper chair. But that may not matter for a lot of people.

I have a more expensive herman miller embody. It... doesn't really have much to adjust. Just the shape of the back. That's kind of an irritating aspect of it to me.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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Before getting into software I did fair amount of construction. Once you know how a job should be done you never look at the resulting product the same way. From drywall to sidewalks, everywhere I look I see that someone rushed or didn't care. I wish it wasn't hard to find quality craftsmanship, but it is. Ignorance is bliss, but I lost that long ago.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article. In particular, the comments seem mostly focused on consumer product build quality whereas the article is more focused on e.g. businesses trying to outsource something (like same day delivery) and getting a worse result even when they pay more than doing it internally. And the cultural obstacle…

> It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article.

I’ve said this before on other threads, and it seems to resonate with others, so I’ll say it here too:

I personally don’t care near as much about a single person’s opinion of a particular topic, as much as I care about the discussion of many people around a particular topic.

And by “topic”, in the case of HN, I mean the title of an article.

I often wish HN would just allow titles to get posted and HN folks just have a discussion around that. (Similar to Ask HN, but not necessarily in the form of a question.)

I’m a terribly slow reader, so there’s no way I could take time out of my already busy day to read this (very long, dense) article of a single person’s opinion of a single topic, especially if I don’t even know whether this person is an expert on said topic.

I guess this is particularly true when it’s a subject I’m only interested in on the surface, vs. caring more deeply about a particular subject.

I get much more ROI reading many people’s shorter discussions vs. a lengthy single opinion (again, given the time it would have taken me to read the article).

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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When I interview, I like to look around and see how many short people work there. A place that picks up the short people other companies don't must be recognizing their value.

I would like to favor places with more women in tech jobs, but generally just don't find any at all, anywhere. Everywhere I have worked they were always trying to hire more women but never got any applicants, or couldn't hire the ones they found.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article. In particular, the comments seem mostly focused on consumer product build quality whereas the article is more focused on e.g. businesses trying to outsource something (like same day delivery) and getting a worse result even when they pay more than doing it internally. And the cultural obstacle…

I read it but it's a mind dump that's not well structure so it's hard to follow. If asked I couldn't give you an answer to the title. I still don't know, " Why it's hard to buy things that work well." He has a lot of citations and footnotes but if it's hard to follow then the essay becomes a bunch or random thoughts which get condensed into the title. I suspect that's why most of the comments relate only to it.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article. In particular, the comments seem mostly focused on consumer product build quality whereas the article is more focused on e.g. businesses trying to outsource something (like same day delivery) and getting a worse result even when they pay more than doing it internally. And the cultural obstacle…

> It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article. I’ve said this before on other threads, and it seems to resonate with others, so I’ll say it here too: I personally don’t care near as much about a single person’s opinion of a particular topic, as much as I care about the discussion of many people around a particular topic. And by “topic”,…

Conversely, often it's more interesting to read a single person's well researched opinion than a dozen one-off comments.

Re: Why is it hard to buy things that work well?

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It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article. In particular, the comments seem mostly focused on consumer product build quality whereas the article is more focused on e.g. businesses trying to outsource something (like same day delivery) and getting a worse result even when they pay more than doing it internally. And the cultural obstacle…

> It's pretty depressing how many of the comments are purely answering the title and not discussing the content of the article. I’ve said this before on other threads, and it seems to resonate with others, so I’ll say it here too: I personally don’t care near as much about a single person’s opinion of a particular topic, as much as I care about the discussion of many people around a particular topic. And by “topic”,…

Sure, but then we’re discussing the topic as set by the post’s title, not the actual topic(s) addressed by the post’s content, which are quite a bit more complex and nuanced than a title of a few characters could ever convey.

What if we want to hold a conversation about the actual post content? Should we add a tag such as [please read]?

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