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Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#172

Aaaand they introduced WebGL bugs that broke our product, and iPhone users will experience these bugs until we can hack a workaround in, or until Apple acknowledges a bug report (that I have to make a minimal test case for and report, and haven't narrowed down yet), patches the issue in Safari, and decides if it's important enough to release as a 15.4.1 (which they probably won't, which means I'm stuck finding a work…

I am sorry you have to go through this painful exercise. But, how would an alternative rendering engine fix this problem?

Webkit would have to compete with other engines to retain its market share rather than abuse its monopoly power.

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#173
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Web MIDI? Still surprised that's missing on Apple.

No WebUSB either (Or ever I guess), I know some HN people might not be a fan of it but personally I think it has huge potential to cut down on engineering waste. No need to build custom apps for every platform to just interface with a hardware device and also because it's a shared spec makes hardware devices hackable and alternative clients easy to create so devices can live on if their creators companies go under.

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#174

Edit: removing the snark/sarcasm I put into it. I was really hoping this announcement would include support for push notifications for PWAs. I've been trying to build a few Discourse forums and they work very well as PWAs except for the fact that iOS doesn't support PWAs sending push notifications. So here's to hoping the next iteration will.

Doesn’t supporting web push notifications involve having worker processes running in the background all the time to poll or keep a socket open for updates? I could see that dragging down battery life if one has notifications for more than just a small handful of PWAs enabled.

Native apps already do this...

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

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I am sorry you have to go through this painful exercise. But, how would an alternative rendering engine fix this problem?

"Our product doesn't work in safari, use chrome or firefox instead"

Unfortunately, Apple have a policy that the inbuilt webkit is the only browser engine that is allowed to be used on an iOS device. The iOS Chrome, Firefox, & Edge apps are just thin wrappers around the same Safari engine included in iOS.

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Our product doesn't work in safari, use chrome or firefox instead"

Unfortunately, Apple have a policy that the inbuilt webkit is the only browser engine that is allowed to be used on an iOS device. The iOS Chrome, Firefox, & Edge apps are just thin wrappers around the same Safari engine included in iOS.

We all know. @ben-schaaf was answering the question "how would an alternative rendering engine fix this problem".

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#180

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I believe Apple and Mozilla’s position is it can’t be done in a privacy preserving way as currently specified.

WebMIDI support in Firefox is almost complete. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836897

I've been regularly checking that page, delighted with every step of progress as WebMIDI gets implemented in Firefox.

In about:config, I have dom.webmidi.enabled set to true. I'm using this test page and waiting for the day it starts working for regular version of Firefox.

https://versioduo.com/webmidi-test/

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