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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by shyiko »

sjmm1989 wrote: post #317
shyiko wrote: post #313

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Yandex has been promoting Russian propaganda/censoring Navalny/etc. for years and you complain about inconvenience of using a different translation service?

Annndddd our own media conglomerates will shill propaganda and censor people who they disagree with all the time as well. Not saying that this exonerates Russia or Yandex, but if you think we shouldn't be able to use Yandex's translation service because of the other things it has done; then you best get ready to stop using google, facebook, reddit and twitter too; along with all the services attached to them. They al…

> That's the thing about sanctions and such. When you take away some things, you gotta try to replace them somehow with something as good or better.

What do you feel when you see things like https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/te6k7b/could_you_a...? (safe to watch; there is no NSF stuff). Do you really believe sanctioning companies that aide the government that does this and worse are not justified or need "replacement"?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by nikolqy »

0xy wrote: post #311
mmastrac wrote: post #282

I am consistently disappointed by any thread involving Mozilla on Hacker News. Somehow Mozilla is held to an impossible standard. For the one company out there holding the internet away from a WebKit monoculture, they sure get the short end of the stick by people here.

The CEO raised her own wage repeatedly while the Firefox market share tanked, during which she directed spending to useless projects that were all eventually shelved and proceeded to plaster Firefox in ads (full page after update) when it became obvious her strategy was an abject failure. Firefox development itself has been rudderless and lethargic for a long time. WebKit introduced backdrop filters 7 years ago and F…

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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by nikolqy »

dataflow wrote: post #165
nix0n wrote: post #40

The release notes for 98.0.1[0] are more clear: > Yandex and Mail.ru have been removed as optional search providers in the drop-down search menu in Firefox. [0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/98.0.1/releasenotes/

Off-topic, but Firefox is on 98 already? isn't Chrome on 99 too? Was their goal to "catch up" or something?

I was wondering the same thing. I think over the past months or even years, Mozilla has been trying to get their version to be the same number as Chrome. Maybe if they focused on making a faster browser they wouldn’t need to play silly number games with their versions.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by chlorion »

mmastrac wrote: post #282

I am consistently disappointed by any thread involving Mozilla on Hacker News. Somehow Mozilla is held to an impossible standard. For the one company out there holding the internet away from a WebKit monoculture, they sure get the short end of the stick by people here.

I do honestly wonder if there is some sort of campaign against Mozilla and Firefox at this point. It might not be a paid thing or some sort of conspiracy, but just an echo chamber effect that keeps getting more intense over time.

In every single thread it's the same stuff rehashed over and over, and dramatic takes about absolutely trivial changes or people being mad over Mozilla political stuff like them canning a former CEO (which was totally deserved). Very rarely do I ever see a positive comment or thread title, and most of the problems people bring up are basically non-issues for 99% of users or completely made up. There are of course some legitimate issues here and there, but they are the exception.

Every time I open these threads it's pretty confusing, I don't know if I am living in a different reality or what's up. I have had zero issues with Firefox in any way and have no complaints about the direction it's moving in. It has the best Wayland support, has great performance, now isolates each site in an OS level process (which further improves performance on modern machines), gets rapid security updates and builds in 1/4th the time and space that chromium takes. I don't notice anything missing compared to using chromium either.

Them removing Yandex from the default search engine options is barely news worthy. Users who want to use it still can, users who don't will continue not to, there is no real issue here.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by kome »

oefrha wrote: post #312
powersnail wrote: post #294

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I don't think Firefox actually takes donation anyway. It's specifically put under Mozilla Corporation so it can generate profit.

Yes, I’m aware of that. People would like to donate specifically to Firefox development though, and some donate to Mozilla Foundation under the impression that it would help. I’ve certainly done that in the past.

yes, but donations is not a business model

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by jonas21 »

chlorion wrote: post #334
mmastrac wrote: post #282

I am consistently disappointed by any thread involving Mozilla on Hacker News. Somehow Mozilla is held to an impossible standard. For the one company out there holding the internet away from a WebKit monoculture, they sure get the short end of the stick by people here.

I do honestly wonder if there is some sort of campaign against Mozilla and Firefox at this point. It might not be a paid thing or some sort of conspiracy, but just an echo chamber effect that keeps getting more intense over time. In every single thread it's the same stuff rehashed over and over, and dramatic takes about absolutely trivial changes or people being mad over Mozilla political stuff like them canning a fo…

It's not like this is unique to Mozilla though. Once you get big enough, you end up attracting a critical mass of people who like to rehash the same old grievances. Take any HN thread about Google, for example.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by nikolqy »

nikolqy wrote: post #332
0xy wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The CEO raised her own wage repeatedly while the Firefox market share tanked, during which she directed spending to useless projects that were all eventually shelved and proceeded to plaster Firefox in ads (full page after update) when it became obvious her strategy was an abject failure. Firefox development itself has been rudderless and lethargic for a long time. WebKit introduced backdrop filters 7 years ago and F…

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Post by BuckRogers »

roenxi wrote: post #37
BuckRogers wrote: post #20

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> ... a fullscale Russian invasion to decapitate their government. > ... encircle China and force them into peaceful deescalation. While you have used the word "peaceful" I suspect a Chinese planner, if by some strange path they read your comment, would start preparing for wild escalations. Because it looks like the strategy is to wait for a moment of weakness then invade. That doesn't sound like a path to peace.

Invading China will likely never be a good idea. I'm for peaceful coexistence of nations unless there's a renegade actor like Putin. I think peace comes from democratic systems. Even the USSR was intended to be democratic. There's almost nothing to stop Putin.

This nuclear hostage holding he's doing has generated a lot of ire. It just can't be tolerated and I don't think it will.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by kdtsh »

staticassertion wrote: post #295
mmastrac wrote: post #282

I am consistently disappointed by any thread involving Mozilla on Hacker News. Somehow Mozilla is held to an impossible standard. For the one company out there holding the internet away from a WebKit monoculture, they sure get the short end of the stick by people here.

I'm fine with this move but Mozilla has sunk well below an acceptable bar. The company sucks and has failed us all. The CEO is a joke and should have never been in the position.

They are in the business of building a web browser, and Firefox is a good web browser (I would say an excellent web browser). Their direction and trajectory is concerning, but they have clearly not sunk below an ‘acceptable bar’.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by nathanaldensr »

perihelions wrote: post #191

Here's a workaround to add an arbitrary non-blessed search engine as the default (i.e. what the omnibar points to): https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-or-remove-search-en... Be aware that in Firefox, the "Search Bar" is a distinct widget from the "Address Bar" (omnibar/"awesomebar"). If it's missing or you can't find it, here's the docs for that UX flow: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customize-firefox-co…

I tried this, but as soon as I remove all other search providers, Firefox automatically adds Google to the list. All searches then use Google.
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