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Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by grapeskin »

sharikous wrote: post #230
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #97

Firefox was going off the rails for a while now. Notice, the worse they become the more they will indulge in politics, censorship, emotional blackmail instead of doing their jobs: building a better browser.

I don't understand this claim. If Mozilla is so awful at developing Firefox, why isn't anyone forking it? Open source is not an empty slogan

Browsers today are massive projects to maintain. They're basically entire OSes and software suites at this point. The days of a browser that can be maintained by 2 guys and updated once every 16 months and still be decent are long gone.

That said, I can recognize that developing and maintaining a browser is a massive undertaking while also acknowledging a project taken a turn for the worse. A lot of software these days has weird priorities (most involving cramming more ads in).

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by busymom0 »

thbw wrote: post #168

Let me repeat Firefox vision: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/VisionStatement#Product_vis... > Discover, experience and connect with apps, websites and people on your own terms, everywhere. Why do you not give people choice on their own terms, everywhere?

Slightly related. I changed my default browser just today back to Safari. In Firefox, I would usually click the first two items on the home page which would be photopea or reddit. Today, they put 2 sponsored items for Amazon and Trivago instead and I accidentally clicked the amazon one without realizing because that first item was supposed to be Photopea. That was enough to piss me off.

https://i.imgur.com/s7NIfCX.png

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by robocat »

sarma912 wrote: post #106
CamperBob2 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Pax Americana is fine but you don't get to kill people." I don't think you understand what you're saying.

Quoted post unavailable.

I’m also from a former British colony. What have the romans ever done for us? https://yandex.com/search/?text=What+have+the+romans+ever+do...

Perhaps read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by busymom0 »

fortnum wrote: post #100

Have been a strong(!) advocate for Firefox for years. Now it is time to switch. Not sure where to yet, Chrome is not any better, Palemoon is not exactly well supported. Maybe Brave, Vivaldi, or Opera, though they are all Chrome-based as well. Difficult decision and not very happy about it, as I do think we need more than just one browser engine, but I can't support Mozilla any more.

I switched back to Safari. In Firefox, I would usually click the first two items on the home page which would be photopea or reddit. Today, they put 2 sponsored items for Amazon and Trivago instead and I accidentally clicked the amazon one without realizing because that first item was supposed to be Photopea. That was enough to piss me off.

https://i.imgur.com/s7NIfCX.png

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by oceanplexian »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #255

It's worth remembering any discussion you see about Russian tech topics right now is almost certainly influenced by paid Russian propaganda agents. Here's two news articles that may provide more carefully edited context. https://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-98-0-1-has-one-big-cha... https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-cris...

It’s also worth remembering that any Russian tech topics are influenced by paid American propaganda agents. What is the point exactly? Argument should be made on their merits not based on who is making them.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by ummonk »

asveikau wrote: post #107
mistrial9 wrote: post #2

can we recognize the difference between civilians (people) and armed participants in conflict (military) in this discussion?

Sorry to go there, but reports are that the Russian Federation is not currently making this distinction in Ukraine right now.

Even if that were true (it’s not - high collateral damage is not the same as not making a distinction), that doesn’t justify us deciding to also treat Russian civilians as military.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by NelsonMinar »

TobyTheDog123 wrote: post #259
NelsonMinar wrote: post #255

It's worth remembering any discussion you see about Russian tech topics right now is almost certainly influenced by paid Russian propaganda agents. Here's two news articles that may provide more carefully edited context. https://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-98-0-1-has-one-big-cha... https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-cris...

Do you mean that the discussion here could be paid Russian propaganda, or that this post is? I’m not sure how a link to the Mozilla bug tracker could be taken out of context.

I mean some of the comments here, and in the Bugzilla discussions, and in any other discussion you read online. I am not trying to call out any specific comment here, nor the original post, which is barely about Yandex at all.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by ummonk »

smt88 wrote: post #12
mistrial9 wrote: post #2

can we recognize the difference between civilians (people) and armed participants in conflict (military) in this discussion?

The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy. It's much like the shipping blockades that were used against the European Axis countries in WWII. Russian civilians should consider themselves lucky that the war is only economic for them.

> The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy.

Do you actually believe this is true? Do you think the sanctions and private boycotts will disappear as soon as Russia negotiated a ceasefire?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by ummonk »

krisoft wrote: post #118
BirAdam wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

> So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? It is not hard to convince me that yes, that should have happened. Where does that lead us? Should I feel different now about this particular agression because there were agressions we did not respond appropriately?

The US continues to occupy Iraq against the wishes of the Iraqi legislature. As such, we shouldn’t support replacing a Russian search engine with an American one.
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