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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by kazinator »

Dunedan wrote: post #123
kazinator wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bing didn't exist in 2003 (launched in 2009), and I don't think that Firefox ("Firebird" at the time) had a search bar with search engines.

That got me curious, so I fired up some old versions of Mozilla Phoenix and checked that out. Turns out already Mozilla Phoenix 0.2 ( https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/phoenix/releases/0.2/ ), released on October 1, 2002, which was the version which originally introduced the search bar, offered the ability to select different search providers.

Hey, that's interesting. Thanks for looking into it!

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by Destiner »

nickysielicki wrote: post #138

I’ve been using yandex as my open-source/public/spam-heavy email provider for a handful of years. Ignoring the current conflict, the yandex product is pretty good. Their search is, IMO, second only to Google, at least for technical queries. Edit: probably going to just buy a domain and protonmail as a contingency plan, though. Don’t want to lose access.

Definitely consider migrating off Yandex. If (when) it will be required by gov to choose either staying in russia or outside of russia, it will choose the former.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by jtriangle »

RobertMiller wrote: post #33
ogurechny wrote: post #11

My submission was flagged because of the phrase “golden shower”, huh. Copying it here: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/shortlog/35f... Basically, Firefox 98.0.1 is a point release only concerned with removing Yandex search for users in Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Turkey, and switching them all to Google by default. Some old promotions from mail.ru and ok.ru were blocked, too, but these have been…

I've found niche uses for Yandex; translation specifically, which can do OCR on images you upload to it. Google translate won't do that, last I checked. If anybody knows of an alternative, I'd like to hear about it.

Their reverse image search is also often more useful than anyone else. Google in particular has gone downhill as of late, not entirely sure why. My gut says that their indexes were purged at some point.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dTal »

nelsondev wrote: post #148
dTal wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please. Let me know when people start getting sent to gulags - or simply killed - for publicly rejecting the official (single) party line of the United States. The false equivalence is getting out of control. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_...

This just happened. (In Canada, not the US, but similar countries.) Here is a story about police rounding up protestors and sending them to jail. https://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-dozens-blockading-canad... > Police chief: “Last night we began to take additional actions towards implementing our operation. We moved officers and equipment into key positions throughout the city and took up 100 checkpoints around the…

Forgive me if I fail to see the connection to murdering journalists.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by _-david-_ »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #64
fleddr wrote: post #50

Never before was the open internet challenged this hard, and never before has it failed so hard. Under pressure, every single thing is subject to politics and cancellation: browsers, search engines, search results, social media, cloud infrastructure, payment systems and even money itself. None pass the test of being open or neutral. At this rate, your much hated crypto folks may actually start to have a point. Kind o…

So why can't we just build our own infrastructure? It's not as though you need spectacular sums of money to run a search engine or a social media platform. You need a few decent engineers for sure and you probably won't get rich from it, but most of this is demonstrably doable even without clouds.

Well Parler tried to start their own social media and that didn't turn out to them. Three of the largest tech companies kicked them out. How do you compete when you aren't allowed to compete?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by xanaxagoras »

Crash0v3rid3 wrote: post #126
dotcoma wrote: post #32

I wish they removed Google...

Can you explain why you feel that way?

Search results aren't that good anymore and Google consistently shovels woke crap down my throat anytime I search for anything more controversial than pizza toppings.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by jtriangle »

fortnum wrote: post #100

Have been a strong(!) advocate for Firefox for years. Now it is time to switch. Not sure where to yet, Chrome is not any better, Palemoon is not exactly well supported. Maybe Brave, Vivaldi, or Opera, though they are all Chrome-based as well. Difficult decision and not very happy about it, as I do think we need more than just one browser engine, but I can't support Mozilla any more.

I've been on vivaldi for awhile, and I've found it to be fairly suitable for my needs. It's more or less chrome with added features, and at least a little less google spyware, and at most none.

Though, you are forced to either manually install extensions, or use the chrome store, which will require you to use some google features, but there's no real way around that.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by xanaxagoras »

fortnum wrote: post #100

Have been a strong(!) advocate for Firefox for years. Now it is time to switch. Not sure where to yet, Chrome is not any better, Palemoon is not exactly well supported. Maybe Brave, Vivaldi, or Opera, though they are all Chrome-based as well. Difficult decision and not very happy about it, as I do think we need more than just one browser engine, but I can't support Mozilla any more.

I'm curious to see if LibreWolf will bring this FF change in.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by marginalia_nu »

_-david-_ wrote: post #155
marginalia_nu wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So why can't we just build our own infrastructure? It's not as though you need spectacular sums of money to run a search engine or a social media platform. You need a few decent engineers for sure and you probably won't get rich from it, but most of this is demonstrably doable even without clouds.

Well Parler tried to start their own social media and that didn't turn out to them. Three of the largest tech companies kicked them out. How do you compete when you aren't allowed to compete?

At the same time, sites like 8chan and kiwifarms manage to get hosting.

Perhaps the lesson is to stop dealing with big tech companies.

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