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Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#51
With so many new features being added to browsers lately it is easy to forget, that not all browsers on old devices are updated, be it older iPad or even laptop with ChromeOS. Dear web developers, please don't forget to add fallbacks or polyfills for older devices.

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#53
post #49

Now all major browsers support the element without polyfill. Yay! https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/di...

And just like that, Safari has surpassed Chrome in interop 2022 https://wpt.fyi/interop-2022

The experimental numbers haven’t changed since Interop 2022 was announced.

That is, there hasn’t been a new version of Safari Technology Preview, which is what the experimental numbers are based on.

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#54

Edit: removing the snark/sarcasm I put into it. I was really hoping this announcement would include support for push notifications for PWAs. I've been trying to build a few Discourse forums and they work very well as PWAs except for the fact that iOS doesn't support PWAs sending push notifications. So here's to hoping the next iteration will.

Personally I really hope they don't add this. Imagine how annoying to have to decline a "please turn on notifications" on every news site on your phone (which you're spammed with on desktop).

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#56
post #31

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Web developers are interested in the features that are widely supported. "Being first" helps no one.

Unless you’re Chrome, in which case it’s really great. /s

So true. When Chrome is first with a new CSS feature, it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.

When Apple does it, it’s looked at with derision.

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#57
> WebKit added support for lazy-loading images with the loading attribute on the element, providing web developers with an easy way to instruct the browser to defer loading certain images until the user scrolls near them

Maybe there's hope that I can then just turn this off on a browser level? I've got gigabit internet at home, and your images popping in on scroll makes it feel like I'm on dial up.

Lazy loading images is at best user hostile bandwidth saving, and it's not even that much in this day and age.

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#59
post #54

Edit: removing the snark/sarcasm I put into it. I was really hoping this announcement would include support for push notifications for PWAs. I've been trying to build a few Discourse forums and they work very well as PWAs except for the fact that iOS doesn't support PWAs sending push notifications. So here's to hoping the next iteration will.

Personally I really hope they don't add this. Imagine how annoying to have to decline a "please turn on notifications" on every news site on your phone (which you're spammed with on desktop).

That would annoy me, too. Maybe they could have it only work for when you Add to Homescreen as a progressive web app, then it would be more opt-in.

Re: New WebKit features in Safari 15.4

#60
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want it so I can uninstall Facebook Messager. On Android I can log into Facebook's website, and receive push notifications via the web-browser. On iOS my choices are either the native iOS app (which has substantially more data hooks) or nothing at all. Essentially browser Push Notifications increase my privacy. PS - I am sympathetic to complaints about push notification request spam, but that feels like a solvable…

I interact with FB messages solely through mbasic.facebook.com, even on my phone. It’s painful enough to keep me off the site, a benefit.

Whoa I didn't know that this existed, thank you for sharing it.
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