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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by Krasnol »

fleddr wrote: post #117
notavalleyman wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yandex is hardly a politically neutral web service, though

And yet somehow it was fine all this time? Virtually nothing in "user land" is politically neutral but I would think/hope that the underlying technology and protocols have a large degree of neutrality. Case in point, I'd see something like AWS as a neutral utility, kind of like electricity. You can do lots of bad stuff with electricity but your electricity provider doesn't care. That idea of separation of concerns is…

You "get along" until you don't. What better moment would be for that than a war?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by asveikau »

nelsondev wrote: post #139
asveikau wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to go there, but reports are that the Russian Federation is not currently making this distinction in Ukraine right now.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

That's correct. And we can't draw false equivalences either; we should consider the scale of the wrong. For example, I would consider loss of life to be quite a bit worse than loss of Yandex.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by bastawhiz »

ogurechny wrote: post #73
bastawhiz wrote: post #59

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> Mozilla Firefox removing control from the user Did they? You can still add Yandex back manually (and trivially), it's just not included with the stock install.

It was not “just not included”, it was removed for everyone, no matter whether they wanted to use it or not. Maybe lizardmen from Mozilla are so detached they consider that all users just suck up and eat what's on the plate today, but some regular people use Yandex search because they have mail there, keep themselves logged in, have configured other services, need something for their work daily, yada yada. So they op…

OpenSearch is a standard. Visit Yandex in Firefox today, and you'll see Firefox happily offer to add Yandex to your search dropdown. The green plus shows you that it's an option.

https://imgur.com/BVlfEIz

It's also in the right click menu for the address bar.

Why does Mozilla need to include Yandex as a default option?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by rvz »

Who pressurized Mozilla this time for this virtue signaling move?

Surely they should have removed Google search by now and replaced it with a privacy friendly alternative since Google has been known to be involved with mass surveillance and having contracts and actively working with the three-letter agencies and simply handing over your data to them? Once again, they still can’t move on from Google nor can they get rid of them since they are on life support with their money.

Firefox is compromised, even with DuckDuckGo. Might as well switch to Brave Browser and use Brave Search.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by raintrees »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #97

Firefox was going off the rails for a while now. Notice, the worse they become the more they will indulge in politics, censorship, emotional blackmail instead of doing their jobs: building a better browser.

Maybe they just need a better slogan... like... build browser better ;)

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by moltke »

rvz wrote: post #144

Who pressurized Mozilla this time for this virtue signaling move? Surely they should have removed Google search by now and replaced it with a privacy friendly alternative since Google has been known to be involved with mass surveillance and having contracts and actively working with the three-letter agencies and simply handing over your data to them? Once again, they still can’t move on from Google nor can they get r…

Might as well use elinks honestly. I can't remember the last site I went to that really needed a modern browser and wasn't just a replacement for an "app." Firefox is there for my bank account, my brokerage, and Discord. Everything else is either handled by open source tools or elinks.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by nelsondev »

dTal wrote: post #130
dionian wrote: post #86

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We used to be able to say AP, Reuters, NYTimes aren't partisan, and we used to be able to joke about RU news being Pravda-style propaganda. Unfortunately, we can no longer really mock the Russians this way with a straight face, as we have now started to look more like Soviet Russia.

Please. Let me know when people start getting sent to gulags - or simply killed - for publicly rejecting the official (single) party line of the United States. The false equivalence is getting out of control. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_...

This just happened. (In Canada, not the US, but similar countries.)

Here is a story about police rounding up protestors and sending them to jail.

https://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-dozens-blockading-canad...

> Police chief: “Last night we began to take additional actions towards implementing our operation. We moved officers and equipment into key positions throughout the city and took up 100 checkpoints around the downtown core. We began making arrests of key individuals who were responsible for organizing these unlawful activities. (flash) As of 3pm today we’ve arrested 70 people. They’ve been charged with multiple various offenses including mischief.”

Here is a story about accounts of protestors being frozen, preventing them from paying bail to get out of jail.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/world/americas/canada-pro...

> But for one protest organizer who was arrested last week, the effect was more immediate. The organizer, Tamara Lich, said she had been frozen out of all of her accounts and could come up with only 5,000 Canadian dollars for bail.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dhdjjd »

dTal wrote: post #125
dhdjjd wrote: post #85

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Thanks god Russia has nukes, otherwise American liberators would have already liberated us. (I don't justify Ukrainian conflict, it's another issue).

You do seem to be having some difficulty liberating yourselves.

Living without free press is better than being dead. And it doesn't matter to me whether good or bad guys kill me.
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