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Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by encryptluks2 »

mappu wrote: post #57
sschueller wrote: post #2

Any suggestions on a stack if one wants to run their own mail server? Debian with postfix and some sort of round cube still the way to go? I am aware of what it entails regarding IP "cleaning", setting a reverse record, SPF and DKIM. Just looking for tips on the software stack side.

I set this all up last month with docker-mailserver, SPF, DKIM, DMARC, the rDNS ptr, sharing LE cert with dokku, with alps for webmail, and it all seemed to be working fine (round-trip delivery to Gmail addresses, etc) until one day I tried to email an outlook.com address and immediately got told my IP was blocked. The mail server's IP is a pretty normal cloud VPS IP from a major hosting company. It's not on any publ…

> Worked great until one provider, Outlook.com, blocked me. Do not try cause you may run into an issue like me and get upset and quit. Now I use Outlook.com instead.

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by 3np »

mappu wrote: post #57
sschueller wrote: post #2

Any suggestions on a stack if one wants to run their own mail server? Debian with postfix and some sort of round cube still the way to go? I am aware of what it entails regarding IP "cleaning", setting a reverse record, SPF and DKIM. Just looking for tips on the software stack side.

I set this all up last month with docker-mailserver, SPF, DKIM, DMARC, the rDNS ptr, sharing LE cert with dokku, with alps for webmail, and it all seemed to be working fine (round-trip delivery to Gmail addresses, etc) until one day I tried to email an outlook.com address and immediately got told my IP was blocked. The mail server's IP is a pretty normal cloud VPS IP from a major hosting company. It's not on any publ…

Microsoft are the worst (and the only ones that ever posed a hassle for us).

I recommend raising the issue with support of your cloud VPS. They most likely handle cases like this routinely and have channels to MS that can get this resolved much smoother, IME. It's their IPs, after all.

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by bobmagoo »

smallerfish wrote: post #77
insaneirish wrote: post #24

> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…

> honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long Really? I remember them saying these early adopter grandfathered in plans would be free for life.

Source?

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by 77pt77 »

smallerfish wrote: post #77
insaneirish wrote: post #24

> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…

> honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long Really? I remember them saying these early adopter grandfathered in plans would be free for life.

And they were. For the life of the product.

That's how they'll see it.

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by reaperducer »

OutsmartDan wrote: post #84
seba_dos1 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can export mail from Google. I've tried to do it on some old G Suite accounts that got suspended and no, you can't.

You can use takeout.google.com to export your entire inbox.

I think you missed the part about the account being suspended.

Can't log in? Can't take out.

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by callesgg »

anaisbetts wrote: post #64
insaneirish wrote: post #24

> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…

You can't export purchased licenses for software / media to another Google account, nor can you migrate Google Play Developer accounts. The mail isn't the problem, the problem is everything else tied to people's personal Google accounts

You don't need to pay anything to google or to use googles mail functionality to keep licenses connected to an account.

Just move the accounts to the free version of "google cloud identity.

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by sethhochberg »

kelnos wrote: post #75
jayknight wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I check this page every week or so: >In the coming months, we'll provide an option for you to move your non-Google Workspace paid content and most of your data to a no-cost option. This new option won't include premium features like custom email or multi-account management. You'll be able to evaluate this option prior to July 1, 2022 and prior to account suspension. We'll update this article with details in the comin…

Oh, this is quite interesting. The one thing I am worried about is that it's not clear if it will let us migrate to a "Google Account without GMail" (which lets you use a custom domain to create a free Google Account, see https://accounts.google.com/SignUpWithoutGmail?hl=en ), but will instead require that we migrate to an @gmail.com account. I really don't want that; I want to keep my Google Account identity the sam…

This is exactly what I'm waiting for, too - I don't really care about migrating my email somewhere else, I'd wanted to do that for a while even before they discontinued the program. But I do want to preserve my existing Google account and the various Google data associated to it, even if that means migrating it out of GSuite.

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by kadoban »

EduardoBautista wrote: post #71
kadoban wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So now our choices are: pay $6 per user per month for essentially what everyone gets for free, or our accounts, which are used for all kinds of free Google services, stop working.

> If you don’t upgrade to a Google Workspace subscription, you will not lose access to other Google services, including YouTube, Google Photos, and Google Play, nor paid content, including YouTube and Play Store purchases. https://apps.google.com/supportwidget/articlehome?article_ur...

Thanks, that's new to me.
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