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I migrated to Zoho back in January for email and opened a regular Google account for YouTube etc. Just waiting for them to kick me off now.
Any suggestions on a stack if one wants to run their own mail server? Debian with postfix and some sort of round cube still the way to go? I am aware of what it entails regarding IP "cleaning", setting a reverse record, SPF and DKIM. Just looking for tips on the software stack side.
There is a hidden cost to this though. Running your own email server, or even having a lesser-known company manage your email server, can cause your emails to be sent to spam without any action on your part. You aren't notified when your email goes to a spam folder, so you always have to worry that the recipient of your emails didn't receive the email, even if you only ever send legitimate emails. If you stay on top…
If what you mention does turn out to be an issue, or you decide it's a worthwhile tradeoff to not have to care about IP reputation, you can choose to route all or a subset (depending on destination domain) of your outgoing mail through a provider like mailroute/mailgun/sendgrid/fastmail/posteo. Or even gmail/AWS. You can still self-host the rest even if you don't want to hother with outgoing SMTP, which you can always add later should uou choose to.
> If you stay on top of all the best-practices for running your own mail server, your hidden cost is the mind-share that that takes.
Are you actually speaking from experience here? Over the past 20-30 years it's been like, what, 4-5 new things to learn?
> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…
> You can export mail from Google. I've tried to do it on some old G Suite accounts that got suspended and no, you can't.
Why would you ever expect a service like this to be free in perpetuity? It's hardly a bait and switch: you never paid for anything, and still got 15+ years of service!
Looks suspiciously at Google docs, which is free, rapidly approaching monopoly status if it's not there already, and has no revenue stream for personal users to speak of.
I'm not sure if my account falls into some sort of never-never-land or if I'm gonna just end up getting charged.
> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…
You can't export purchased licenses for software / media to another Google account, nor can you migrate Google Play Developer accounts. The mail isn't the problem, the problem is everything else tied to people's personal Google accounts
Yeah, this is a pain and I hope there will be some good news soon. My family runs on this - the only advantage over free Gmail is that we can use our own domain name, and we're going to suddenly have to pay $42 per month (okay, $36 if I trim one of the accounts I hardly use). We've got loads of Photos, movie purchases etc which I don't want to lose, plus all the kids Android phones, 2 x Home, 2 x Chromecast. Friends…
What do they entail?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been making a list of all the Google services I use that are tied to my account, and what migrating to a free/personal account would look like. Yes, I can get pretty much all the data out, but it's incredibly lossy, and much of it just cannot be imported into the new account at all, and some of it that can be, will require me to write a bunch of tools that use Google's various product APIs. I've already moved my…
Sounds like Google was providing you a bunch of valuable services for free for a long time. Not defending Google but your argument is not compelling.
Say you make a choice between equivalent services, A or B. Over time you are locked into your choice because you make decisions that fit your choice. The benefits and costs/risks of choosing A or B are often indistinguishable over time. Yet later, changing between the two can be unfeasibly expensive: e.g. changing banks (mortgage lock-in), changing health insurance (existing condition lock-in), changing careers, etcetera.