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Re: Sprint to 'Bet the Company' on iPhone

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I know I'm surely in the minority here but back in August I was so fed up with AT&T that I spent most of the month planning a move to Sprint. I was in and out of stores, researching phones online, talking to friends and more. Even with their poor coverage (my parents live in western mass and basically that entire side of the state is a black hole for sprint) I was so close to making the switch, at least for a one mon…

May be someone could answer a question I have for a long time. There are two different modes of operations wrt the mobile phone industry. US and most other European countries package phone and services together. Whereas in a lesser sophisticated market like here in India phone and services are independent of each other. Both have their own pros and cons - Here I would never choose a crappy network because they have a…

I worked with carriers on handset pricing strategy so I'm familiar with this issue. There is a reason many country telecom regulators ban subsidization of handsets - in most cases bundling is anti-consumer.

Bundling uses a common pricing psychological trick - by reducing the fixed price (i.e. the phone price) but increasing the variable charge (i.e. the monthly bill) the consumer has a perception that the deal is "cheaper". I'd venture to say that the wealth level of consumers who buy high end smartphones in the US is lower than those who do in other markets - essentially the lower one time charge encourages consumers to buy phones they really can't afford (it's like layaway for mobile phones). Furthermore, the consumer is locked into a long term contract (usually 2+ years) so they can't churn.

Finally, carriers can exploit uninformed consumers. For example, you can offer two free phones with a plan, one of which has a cost of $300 and the other $200 to the carrier. You can list both phones at a fake MSRP $350 making both phones seem like equivalent deals when in fact consumers who buy the $200 phone are essentially writing a $100 check to the carriers. Since carriers bundle phones with the service and most models are carrier specific, there is no perception of the actual value of a phone and thus, it's really easy to do this.

In general, the US market is pretty anti-competitive because of i) bundling ii) carrier locked phones iii) lack of pre-paid options (esp on the high end) iv) long term contracts v) CDMA networks which prevent re-using phones with another carriers

So in general US customers get a raw deal when compared to other markets (don't get me started on how we get charged for incoming calls and SMS). On the plus side, we do tend to get coolest phones first.

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> "Five years ago, the Motorola Razr was the top-selling phone," says > Credit Suisse analyst Jonathan Chaplin. "Imagine trying to sell 6 > million of them today." The thing about the RAZR is that it was a sleek, small form factor. I don't remember anyone who had one tout its functionality as the reason they got it. So the next sleek phone or better featured phone could easily displace it. The iPhone on the other han…

Actually, I remember numerous friends describing the original iPhone as having terrible reception. An old boss switched to skype for phone calls so he could keep using his iPhone for its apps (or something). It seems more like the iPhone combines generally good-but-not-fabulous engineering with the continued irrational loyalty of "Apple Fanboys". Edit: But this too may indeed be a competitive advantage that's hard to…

There are over a hundred million "Apple Fanboys"?

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BGR is reporting that the iPhone5 may be a Sprint exclusive. That's pretty big for Sprint. Explains why Sprint has been completely mum about Windows Phone Mango. If this is true, it might be time for me to leave Sprint. http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/03/sprint-guarantees-to-buy-over-...

Their stock (which I unfortunately hold a bit of) dropped over 10% today. If that's the case, I hope they announce it rather than let the speculation continue.

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I know I'm surely in the minority here but back in August I was so fed up with AT&T that I spent most of the month planning a move to Sprint. I was in and out of stores, researching phones online, talking to friends and more. Even with their poor coverage (my parents live in western mass and basically that entire side of the state is a black hole for sprint) I was so close to making the switch, at least for a one mon…

> Unlike its rivals, Sprint also will almost certainly offer unlimited data plans for new iPhone buyers, since it is a clear competitive advantage, one person familiar with the matter said. The company believes the combination will allow it to poach customers from Verizon and AT&T, the person said.

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If sprint throws in tethering for those two years they will certainly poach a lot of customers. But with their overall network quality, it's likely that they suffer an AT&T style meltdown. Their 3G speeds are already the slowest of all national carriers, and an LTE rollout looks far off.

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> "Five years ago, the Motorola Razr was the top-selling phone," says > Credit Suisse analyst Jonathan Chaplin. "Imagine trying to sell 6 > million of them today." The thing about the RAZR is that it was a sleek, small form factor. I don't remember anyone who had one tout its functionality as the reason they got it. So the next sleek phone or better featured phone could easily displace it. The iPhone on the other han…

Actually, I remember numerous friends describing the original iPhone as having terrible reception. An old boss switched to skype for phone calls so he could keep using his iPhone for its apps (or something). It seems more like the iPhone combines generally good-but-not-fabulous engineering with the continued irrational loyalty of "Apple Fanboys". Edit: But this too may indeed be a competitive advantage that's hard to…

I guess design doesn't count towards the success or usability of the iPhone's "irrational" loyalty? Android is waiting with open arms for your "rational" assessment of technology. Enjoy them.

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BGR is reporting that the iPhone5 may be a Sprint exclusive. That's pretty big for Sprint. Explains why Sprint has been completely mum about Windows Phone Mango. If this is true, it might be time for me to leave Sprint. http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/03/sprint-guarantees-to-buy-over-...

Their stock (which I unfortunately hold a bit of) dropped over 10% today. If that's the case, I hope they announce it rather than let the speculation continue.

Meh, they're in great company today.

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I like my Sprint service. The reception is far from legendary, but it's there, and the data is unlimited. If I wanted an iPhone, I'd do what everyone else does and switch to AT&T (and now Verizon). I suspect that folks who really care that it's an iPhone and not an Android (or potentially WP7, if that ever gets off the ground) have already made their move.

Why wouldn't you buy an unlocked iPhone?
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