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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dionian » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:07 PM UTC

dralley wrote: post #44

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So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

>So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? Probably, yes. That never would have happened, but that would indeed be the logical conclusion. And I'm fine with that.

That's good of you to admit, it means you have a moral consistency here. Interestingly, most of the US politicians supported by the MSM (right and left) were all for the Iraq War and its dubious justifications (Yellowcake), republican or democrat. With a few exceptions such as POTUS 45

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by AniseAbyss » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:07 PM UTC

throwmeariver1 wrote: post #25

Brian_K_White wrote: post #23

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I doesn't matter why, what and how are damning enough on their own. A legit change in some deal does not explain several aspects of this update. When something doesn't add up, you are supposed to scrutinize it, not just assume it's fine. If it was fine, then why wasn't there an honest explanation? Mozilla did a bad thing. If our speculations about the why are wrong, it doesn't change anything about what is wrong with…

It’s their browser not yours if you don’t trust them use something else. I keep away from defaults especially search because they are usually paid for and not in good faith. They also dropped yandex two times already and you guessed it right… because of monetary reasons. This is not the smoking gun you want it to be.

I vaguely recall that Yandex is based in the Netherlands for tax reasons (like many Russian companies and oligarchs) but Russian money is no longer good.

All contracts signed with Russians are up for review and likely annulment.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by scarmig » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:10 PM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #88

BirAdam wrote: post #36

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So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

Please point me to where the Us made it their policy to terror bomb civilians.

Never policy; just accidentally launching a drone strike against the occasional wedding party.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by ogurechny » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:13 PM UTC

saghm wrote: post #87

ogurechny wrote: post #54

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Note that is the first ever straightforward announcement of the removal accessible to the end user, and it wasn't even available when release happened (about 12 hours ago). It's like giving a hard hat to a man that has already got to the emergency room.

That seems a bit overdramatic; it's not like people couldn't still access those search engines at all in Firefox; they just would have to go directly to the website instead of using the dropdown menu. I'd imagine that typing the name of one of them into Google or DuckDuckGo would lead to their site pretty easily

It's easy to fix. However, Mozilla gets a boatload of money each year for specific handling of those who don't understand that.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by AniseAbyss » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:13 PM UTC

sarma912 wrote: post #60

BirAdam wrote: post #36

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So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

As a brown person I keep asking myself this everyday, it doesn't seem fair at all. If you raise the point you're making you'll be drowned out with "don't bring me your whataboutism, lives are being lost as we speak". Brown lives have been lost for quite a while now ...

Well I have the balls to admit that yes the public cares less about Arabs in a far away desert then fellow Euros.

But I think you already know that and your righteous indignation isn't going to change that. Life is not fair.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by klausjensen » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:14 PM UTC

BirAdam wrote: post #38

BuckRogers wrote: post #20

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An invasion of Russia would risk the destruction of the entire globe by nuclear weaponry. Ousting Putin and destabilizing Russia would increase the risk of nuclear weaponry making its way to more violent regimes. I do not think either of those is particularly wise.

More violent regimes than Russia??

I am not sure they exist right now. Nobody else is threatening nuclear war, while invading a peaceful neighbouring country, slaughtering civilians.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:15 PM UTC

Firefox was going off the rails for a while now.

Notice, the worse they become the more they will indulge in politics, censorship, emotional blackmail instead of doing their jobs: building a better browser.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by BlueTemplar » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:16 PM UTC

sarma912 wrote: post #60

BirAdam wrote: post #36

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So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

As a brown person I keep asking myself this everyday, it doesn't seem fair at all. If you raise the point you're making you'll be drowned out with "don't bring me your whataboutism, lives are being lost as we speak". Brown lives have been lost for quite a while now ...

It is unfair. And we should raise this point - while being careful not to make it sound like a defense of Putin.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by CamperBob2 » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:18 PM UTC

sarma912 wrote: post #90

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"Pax Americana is fine but you don't get to kill people."

I don't think you understand what you're saying.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by fortnum » Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 9:20 PM UTC

Have been a strong(!) advocate for Firefox for years.

Now it is time to switch. Not sure where to yet, Chrome is not any better, Palemoon is not exactly well supported. Maybe Brave, Vivaldi, or Opera, though they are all Chrome-based as well.

Difficult decision and not very happy about it, as I do think we need more than just one browser engine, but I can't support Mozilla any more.